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Thoughts on 'That' badge had been fed back to some very senior people at Lotus.

 

If they really are insistent on plonking the tailgate badge onto the dashboard, it might be worth suggesting they ensure all the letters are stuck down properly on the press cars, at least.

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40,000 Miles.  No. Frickin'. Way.  That's insane!

 

So is the Autocar the only review up so far?  I periodically search but can't seem to find anything else.... *cough* Bibs :P

 

sorry - this just in:

http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/lotus/evora/400/first-drive

 

And a happy read!

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I just cannot see past that Lettering on the dashboard - I had not realised that Norfolk was so close to Essex and some chavs had infiltrated the design team way out in Norfolk!   :2guns: Apologies to anyone in Essex who does not wear a shell suit everyday and as an original scouser I know how much those old jokes hurt  :harhar:

 

Re the Autocar review - to be honest, I don't understand the negative comments on here about it. I read it last night on my mobile when it was published whilst waiting for BA to fix the brakes on the Airbus we were on - I think they'd got the 50% off brakes and mot from Kwik Fit last month!). I thought the reviewer was pretty fair to be honest, raised some good points and raised some areas where he thought it needed more work. As far as the driving was concerned it was a very good road test review. Obviously the comparisons with the Cayman don't help (as the Evora looks pricey next to it) but with the 911 they were OK (where the Evora looks good value tbh).  To fix this, the Lotus Marketing guys really need to impress on the Journo's where they have pitched the car (against the 911) and why it is pitched there and not at the Cayman. They need to point out the Exige (especially the CUP) is the true comparator for the Cayman (especially the GT) etc.

 

I think the mechanics, designers etc. have done a great job (just for christ's sake lose those bloody stupid Lotus Letters from the dash and those bloody stupid anal American reflector thingies - yes, I noticed them right up again!  :)  ) and  now the Lotus Marketing people really need to up their game and press home the key messages around where the car is pitched. £75k for a 911 alternative is good value when you look at the spec.

 

The car sells itself, the pictures I have seen now include a black, yellow, silver and orange one and they all look stunning and the shape of the car (even the front) is really starting to grow on me and I like it. In fact, I like it a lot and from the back I think it looks really really good.

 

One question, with the move from Pirelli's to Michelin's, is this something I should look at for my "old" Evora NA as I am due some new tyres in around 1500 miles. Anyone used the Michelin Pilot Super Sports on an NA? Would appreciate the views from people who have swapped.


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What a great "verdict" statement, very positive -  and they gave 4 stars!

 

Verdict 4 out of 5

 

The Evora was always a good car that could and should have delivered more, but that’s no longer the case with this “two thirds new” Lotus Evora 400. On every level, be that in a straight line, going around corners or even just to sit in and interact with, the 400 is a huge improvement over its predecessor. It’s more expensive, yes, but in many ways it represents far better value. More of the same please Lotus, you’ve been away for far too long.

 

I think I also prefer the leather interior to the Alcantara - looks like a real comfortable GT

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One question, with the move from Pirelli's to Michelin's, is this something I should look at for my "old" Evora NA as I am due some new tyres in around 1500 miles. Anyone used the Michelin Pilot Super Sports on an NA? Would appreciate the views from people who have swapped.

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I can only find pilot sport 3's on the front size ?


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http://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/lotus-evora-400-review-2015-first-drive-0723985451

 

Another good review :) although maybe the reviewer should get down to Specsavers  :harhar:

 

 

The body has been restyled, with a more scoops, wings and splitters, although it’s still a long way from pretty. The interior gets yet another overhaul.....


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I can only find pilot sport 3's on the front size ? 

 

 

EDIT : i've now found them on the michellin site but not blackcircles

 

Black circles have them for both front 225/40 ZR18 and rear 255/35 ZR19, just checked - £120.26 front and £179.40 rear.

 

 

http://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/brands/michelin/pilot-super-sport


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I really think I'm sold. The Orange with black looks awesome for the money.

One USP I keep coming back to (which also puts a different slant on any comparison) is the fact that this car remains the only 4-seat mid-engined sports (verging on super-) car in the world?

Please correct me if I'm wrong...

I'm not interested in tracking one. I'm not fussed about straight line speed. The bends are where it's at and in any given road these days where most fun can be extracted and enjoyed. I LOVE the fact that the reviews suggest the 6 second Hethel improvement over the current SR is due to, in whatever way, road holding and suspension changes and the payback of these wholesale revisions. It's in the bends and curves that I believe this new car's possible magic dust lies due still to its inherent and unique configuration... alleluia!

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I hear you Hellers.

I could have written that post.

I will have a 400 at some point, I will "make do" with my NA until then :lol:

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As a huge fan of the current Evora I have to say that all this is making the deals on the current Evora S and SR even more tempting. Some fantastic savings to be had for anyone like me who likes the 'old' interior and styling.

 

I really wish Lotus well with the new car however. It would be great to see a few more around.

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I hear you Hellers.

I could have written that post.

I will have a 400 at some point, I will "make do" with my NA until then :kiss:

I will have one too Lee at some point, hopefully that lovely orange one with the black pack!  However, right now, as good as it will be, I could not justify sinking the best part of £48k into one PLUS my current 2010 NA Evora.

 

Now, can someone please order an orange one, 2+0, leather not alcantara and manual. Please enjoy it for 3 years and 15k miles and when the warranty runs out give me a call  :kiss:


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Sounds like it is sell, sell, sell on Pirelli shares then!  Buy, buy, buy on Michelin.  I've previously run those Michelins on a Boxster S and they were excellent IMO.

 

Good news Bibs about passing on to senior management about the letters and I guess there is no point in whinging about the Federal reflectors I guess as the body is moulded for them.  It tells you who they hope the big market is for the car though, where before they were stuck on, for over the pond.

 

Have to say when the time comes for the Roadster order I'm up for whatever Orange that was with black pack.  Looks stunning and like others the front is slowly growing in those colours. I may have to move away from my favourite Ardent Red although I am sure it will also be stunning when we see one.


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If you're a muppet than I must be a clanger. It's hard to 100% correct all of the time :)

Nope, you're no muppet, an ass maybe - hahaha :)


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@@@Ian / Hellers:

 

The BmW i8 also is a 2+2 midengined car...in a way.....the other 2+2 midengined cars have lon disappeared (Ferrari 308 GT4, Mondial, Lambo Uracco......)

 

But I am with you, the plus two is a huge plus in daily usability

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With the evora 400 getting good reviews and improving on the older models I will be interested to see impact on pricing for older models 40k plus.

Stu

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Stu,

 

When you came on the forum I seem to remamber you asking about when the cars SC will drop below £30k and this it seems isn't any time soon and with the 400 being launched at a £10k premium over the outgoing model I would think this will help preserve current values rather than harm them.

 

Trevor.


I'll get around to it at some point.

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