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Racing green you say?

This looked so much better in the flesh.

Dark and menacing. Really Special when you look closer. The black roof and trim made it all the better.

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I've not driven an Evora until last week. I drove over to Hofmann's in my 991 deliberately to make the back to back comparison. To echo Dave's points I was not disappointed with the cabin feel and qua

Good news!! I just got a call from the dealer.  Lotus sends apologies all around for the confusion and will be building the vehicle exactly as my order specified.   The color is officially no longer

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yes love the Racing Green, reminiscent of the Lotus Carlton's Imperial Green. It will only really look green in direct sun light.

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I'm totally dismayed that at this stage Lotus seem to be willing to fluke up a prospective sale / new customer by changing the colours available so drastically and with so little notice. If true, are Lotus intentionally trying to fail?  This with the alarm issues is making me wonder just how much progress is being made. It's these small things that will make a difference as they go forward.

The motorsport green looks stunning, red or cognac interior and just wow....  Come on Lotus, we really want to see you grow fit and strong......

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

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Thank you all for your interest in the dark green color.  A quick inquiry to that affect resulted in a new color green as well (on left).

 

I honestly don't even know what is going on anymore.  And none of this is on their website.

 

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I wouldn't pay much attention to the website, it really isn't doing the brand justice at the moment.

Really your dealer should be explaining what's going on but I can only imagine it is some attempt at cost saving by JMGales. I had always imagined they would prefer to paint the cars in batches where possible, reducing the numbers of colours available might make this simpler perhaps but from a recent factory visit I was told that they don't batch paint the cars anyway, so really it shouldn't make much difference what colour you order. Have you been offered the colour you want but at an increased price? Perhaps they are offering you what is available at the original agreed price? Special order paint used to be £1800 extra over here, I would be amazed if you couldn't have the colour you wanted, but it might cost you more to get it.

The darker Green is really nice but was never very popular over here, maybe they are discontinuing it?

But there's nowt wrong with the lighter green if its the same as Motorsport Green it's a great colour for an Evora. In fact I was very tempted by this car just because of the colour, at £49k brand new it was a steal, no wonder someone has snapped it up!

http://www.snowsgroup.co.uk/lotus/used-cars/3004250-lotus-evora-v6-2-sports-racer-v6-vvt-i/

 

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I actually think it would be one of those colours you will be really glad you went for when you see it for the first time. It looks similar to laser blue which is not a colour I would have ordered but was amazed by when I saw it first hand. Serious wow factor.

If you are a blue fan; have you ever seen any shade of blue that did not work on the Evora?  They all look amazing.

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I have told the dealer I insist Lotus honor the original order they so gladly accepted a deposit on.

No reply back yet... but I'm honestly so happy today I just can't care right now.  (See what made you happy today thread.)

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Whilst down in Cheshire for the weekend I took the opportunity to call into Oakmere this morning to have a real good nosey around their Orange 400 with black pack.

First time seen the 400 in the flesh and just wow. It really has some presence. A Cayman GTS was parked opposite it and the 400 just looks so exotic, fast and expensive in comparison. The Cayman just looked, well, ordinary.

Interior is a wonderful place to be and the Oakmere car did not have the LOTUS letters on the dash and looked perfect for it.

Black leather interior, nice stitching and a real quality feel and no smell of glue.

I was very very impressed.

Now I wonder if the new 400 grills would fit my front bonnet / clam rather than the wire it has now, oh and woukd the new rear diffyser fit my car too?  Hope so....  :)

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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I have told the dealer I insist Lotus honor the original order they so gladly accepted a deposit on.

No reply back yet... but I'm honestly so happy today I just can't care right now.  (See what made you happy today thread.)

I'd be interested to know the full story here. 

So are Lotus flat refusing to offer your original choice of paint or asking for more money for what is now a special order colour? 

If it has been discontinued as a standard colour then it will no longer be available at the original agreed price. That's unfortunate but they have to change the colour range from time to time and this can happen.

If it's the former then I suspect they are just hoping you'll choose an available colour as part of some cost control exercise. However if pushed I'm sure they won't lose a sale over it.

If it's the latter and you really want that colour then I'd just pay the extra for it or negotiate hard with your dealer to meet you half way. I don't know what special order paint costs in the US but it used to be £500 more than the premium metallic paints, so worth it for me to have the colour you really want.

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If B&Q can give you any colour you want (Dulux will match items you bring into store) when you're spending ~£30, WTF can't Lotus give the man the colour he ordered at the price they agreed when he's spending 2,500 times as much?

If, for whatever reason, the paint has become more expensive, Lotus should swallow the increase and give the customer what they agreed to deliver - Lotus' supply chain is their problem!

If they wish to change their price structure on future orders fair enough - future customers will have the option to choose to pay or not to pay for 'premium' colours. I really do hope this is all just a big misunderstanding, and he'll get the colour he ordered at the price he agreed - otherwise it looks a lot like bait and switch to me...

 

 

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With the 991 GT3RS you get a choice of four colours, like it or lump it and that costs nearer £150k. The B&Q argument won't get you very far with Porsche!

I think it's best to wait until we get the full story before blasting off.

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I feel for you though. It takes ages of thinking when you a new car of what colour to choose. As much as anything its quite mentally exhausting picking and re picking a colour. Would annoy the hell out of me if the colour I had picked in good faith needed to be chosen again!

Im a believer that things often work out for the best so maybe after all you will end up with a different colour but which is better than the original choice B-)

 

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Hi Buddsy

,the picture of the green one send by you: is that the left or right green paint sample (I would guess the right, but if the left one should be the "actual" one....)?

As often said: I cannot understand that Lotus is not abe / willing to provide a Konfigurator that Shows the Colors more or less realistic.....People that saw my car normally are very surprised that frost blue Looks t h a t way in reality (in the konfig. it Looked like primer............no wonder that nearly no one ordered it.:o)

 

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Hi Buddsy

,the picture of the green one send by you: is that the left or right green paint sample

To be honest Im not sure but it was very dark. If you want you could ask James at Stratton's Im sure he would be able to tell you.

 

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I'd be interested to know the full story here. 

So are Lotus flat refusing to offer your original choice of paint or asking for more money for what is now a special order colour? 

 

Here is what I know.   I paid a hefty deposit , configured my order with options, including paying extra for the dark blue metallic paint I want  ( vs. the no charge standard colors which I think was red and maybe one of the gray/silver colors.)

And that's it.  This happened months ago.  I thought everything was right as rain. 

Please keep in mind I ALREADY SOLD MY EspritV8 , as I was so sure I was going to love this 400.   Now my EspritV8 is gone, and the dealer gets contacted out of the nowhere months after the order is accepted , and has to tell me I need to choose a different color for my 400.   I'm not sure why Lotus is removing all the "grown-up" colors to have only loud boy-racer radical weekend colors available...   ..I mean would it kill them to offer both?  What year is this?  2015 right?  I think we have come to a point in our technology where light blue AND dark blue can coexist in the same space time continuum.

 

 

 

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The dealer said today in email...

My rep. is in communication with the factory and is trying to work out a solution. 

... ( to a problem they created all by themselves ) ...  haha 

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So, whilst my car was back at Lotus Silverstone today having a couple of "niggles" attended to, I had the opportunity to take a short test drive of their 400 demo car. My thought during this brief encounter

I like the the new more aggressive looking front end but not sure about the rear styling. The new mesh for the front grills is also an improvement. (I guess the front bumper and grills could be retro fitted to the old model?)

The car felt good on the road with the new suspension settings. On some poorish roads ride quality was on par with my recent purchase, in fact I felt the overall feel on the road was better than mine.

Gearchange felt very precise and a shorter throw. It did feel like an improvement over my 2015 built car although I still managed to fluff a change from 5th to 6th.

Getting in & out is obviously much easier with the lower and narrower sills & the interior also felt more spacious. The seats seemed to offer better support in the lower back region, hugged ok around the ribs but not so much around the hips. The extra padding on the headrest also suited me better but obviously I can't comment on long distance comfort

I liked the contrasting stitching on the dash but felt the small silver sat nav/media buttons looked a bit cheap & seemed certainly more fiddly to use with my fat fingers than the old setup.

The sound from the exhaust when the valve was open was spot on :thumbup:. On mine there is little change to the sound inside the car when I put it into sport mode (although I am told you can tell the difference from the outside). However, and it may be down to my short test drive, the car didn't seem any more responsive in sport mode. On mine there is a noticeable difference so this got me thinking. On the 400 does Sport mode do everything that it did on the previous Evora S or has there been a change to the settings whereby Sport mode controls just the exhaust valve and you now need to use Race mode to replicate the responses of the previous model. would be good to hear other people's experience of this since it may well have been due to my limited time with the car.

Overall a definite improvement & I did think long and hard about buying the "old" model knowing the new car was in production. However, looking at the price difference on what the 400 costs versus the recent selling prices of the late Sport Racer S models I'm not sure that the improvement warrants the extra £20k outlay (depreciation apart since that is an unknown element).

I do though wait with eager anticipation should a roadster version go into production in the next 3 years.:happy dance:

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I do though wait with eager anticipation should a roadster version go into production in the next 3 years.:happy dance:

You won't have to wait long. JMG has said in a recent US interview that it will be 2016. 

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Found the reference:

"I had the U.S. in mind when I came [to Lotus]; that was one of my first projects. The Roadster is first. It’s going to appear in summer 2016. The Roadster is easily done because we have a tough chassis and a composite body, and we already have the rollover bar incorporated, so taking the roof off is relatively easy. We can do it for a small amount of money. The A-pillar is reinforced. What we have in mind is two carbon-fiber roofs below 7 pounds each, which you can easily take off and store behind the rear seats. It’s basically a targa. We call it a Roadster. I drove a prototype last month, and it’s amazing. You can hear the engine note much more strongly than on the Evora 400. That will give us the second big boost after the 400."

From http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/lotus-ceo-jean-marc-gales-talks-evora-400-future-suv/ (which was in the JMG era thread). 

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Good news!!

I just got a call from the dealer.  Lotus sends apologies all around for the confusion and will be building the vehicle exactly as my order specified.  

The color is officially no longer available, starting right now i guess, making mine the only 400 of this color.  It will be 1 OF 1.

Pretty cool...  B-)

Great news and good to read Lotus did the right thing. Looking forward to pics once you have it!

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