robington Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 My 17 year old daughter just bought her first car, saved up the money for the car and insurance herself over the last few years – a 02 Renault Clio. She’s obviously very excited. It seemed tidy enough, but even so I thought I would run a HPI check just to make sure it had not been written off in the past, just for my own piece of mind. Turns out it has a mileage alert on it – at least 25k was knocked off it between 04 and 08, so what that means (in my mind) is she has paid too much for it. We could walk away from it and get our money back, because we have only paid a small deposit, but she really likes it – it’s her first car after all. I am going to try to negotiate the price down a bit more, but if that fails I think she is still going to want the car! Its an old car at the end of the day, but even so - I don't want to see her ripped off. The car is £900.00. You are all wise people – what would you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 What mileage we talking of Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Esprit SE Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I think judge it on condition, at that age you could get one with half the mileage thats been bounced up every kerb, clutch slipped at every light or wheel spun tound asda car park, it could be a clock change or domething innocent?? Ive had the mot guys key in the wrong mileage back in the day that messed the searches up later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayevora Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I'd also say if there is a valid mot with no advisories, everything works and good tyres and brakes, it might still be an ok buy. Although like you, I would also be trying to negotiate some further discount. I also bought daughters 1st car last year and couldn't believe the milage was genuine - I found a 55 plate Peageot 206 with only 16K miles and paid £1000 for it. After the checks, turned out it was genuine and a 1 owner 85 year old lady retiring from driving who'd been doing a once a week post office trip. Last 5 MOTs showed around 550 miles between each of them. Good luck. Quote Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk - that will teach us to keep mouth shut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robington Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Thanks, Mileage is 95000 on the clock. It does look pretty tidy for its age and ran fine when I drove it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLarge Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Agree with the other comments re price negotiation. Don't ignore however the fact that when she is bored with the car(and that will happen with first car!!) you will have a more difficult time selling it for the same reason as you are finding. Apart from that buy the car!! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdavelotus Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I wouldn't be haggling over a £900 car that over 10 years old, it's the condition and not the mileage you should be looking at. Also the same should apply to a HPI check, I would only consider getting one on a car over £5k. If your daughter wants the car then go for it. Also if I were you I would offer advise to your daughter but also support her on her decisions etc. after all, she's a young adult now and it's all part of life's journey and learning, sometimes from mistakes. Hopefully though, this won't be one of them! Regards David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 At that end of the market just buy it. Check the tyres and the oil, do a cambelt then sit back while she scrapes it on any available gatepost or carpark pillar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Is it a simple as the speedo being replaced? Happens here sometimes and new speedo is not put back with same mileage as old one. You could always take the unit out and correct the mileage, can't you? Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Esprit SE Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Ha ha Advantage has the most valid point...its about to get tested top gear special style as a young girls first car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanmt Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) I recently had an issue with a car I was selling and HPI. They take into account the DVLA/MOT history but also run their own mileage history service called National Mileage Register.The NMR gets their data from asking traders, previous owners and generally scraping data from anywhere about car mileages. IE if you get recovered at any point and the firm makes a note of the mileage that could end up as a record against your car. Accurate or otherwiseWith my old Audi it had a random 90k mileage record in 2013 when it was closer to 80k. I owned the car at the time so i know it never had a speedo swap/got clocked etc but it still caused a headache when selling it. I had to conact the HPI company with all the proof of MOT/Service history data before they removed the error, if I hadnt had that information to hand I would have been stuffed by a record of a mileage that was entered by somebody who I know had never seen the car..Ive got no idea where the 90k mileage record came from still, could have been a lazy trader or a previous owner making a guess. Maybe it was when I entered a rough mileage in for an insurance quote.. very annoying! Edited March 1, 2015 by Ryanmt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robington Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Thanks for al your opinions. Interesting what you said Ryan because the mileage alert in question relates to the recording of a 74k mileage by a franchised dealer when the car was 14 Months old! Who would buy a Clio if you were doing that sort of mileage? Taking into account the condition for its age and the fact is has 11 Months MOT were picking it up tomorrow. We can sort out whatever happens from there. Agree that its not worth haggling over £900.00 - Ruddy insurance is scary though ..... Robin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayevora Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Ruddy insurance is scary though ..... . Have you tried gogirl.com? Quote Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk - that will teach us to keep mouth shut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Have you tried gogirl.com? is it safe to google that 2 Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robington Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Just tried Gogirl and it came out about the same - £2.5k third party fire & theft. We are gong to try a good old fashioned insurance broker tomorrow and see what that throws up... Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Esprit SE Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 That 74k should probably be 7400 miles, amazing the knock on effect a flick of a finger on a key board leaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayevora Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Just tried Gogirl and it came out about the same - £2.5k third party fire & theft. We are gong to try a good old fashioned insurance broker tomorrow and see what that throws up... Thanks again. Fully comp is cheaper than 3rd party in many cases nowadays. Try a requoteI paid £1300 fully comp on that 1.4l Peugeot for main driver 17 year old. Try to get as many named drivers on the policy as possible even if they have no intention of driving it. (Max 5 I think) Quote Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk - that will teach us to keep mouth shut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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