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Hi guys,

 

The reverse camera on my 2010 car seems to have suffered from a touch of water.  The dealer wants £650 to replace it "it comes as a complete kit, I'm afraid..." which seems very much on the rich side.

 

I've removed the rear trim from the boot to try and see how to get the little blighter out, but it's not obvious to me.  Does one take the camera out through the big grommet?  How hard is to get it out?

 

Any suggestions for where to get a replacement (for less than £650!!)?

 

Thanks,

 

Peter

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It does seem a bit rich. Direct from Lotus through Deroure is cheaper, let alone other places...

http://www.deroure.com/partinfo.asp?MAK=1&MDL=20&TBL=5586&SMA=1&SMO=20&ST=camera&SC=0&PBID=230023

Edit - an updated version that should be compatible...

http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-alpine-hce-c115_p-27629.htm?id=pla&gclid=Cj0KEQjwlYqoBRDajuaTvsyq1PQBEiQAEhSjnCJs7nCZosmGXgOey3PThvKQxtAF-5ZjppLs93fWU2gaAlCA8P8HAQ

Edited by JAWS

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^ What he said. There are a few threads on here about economical replacement to the camera... :)

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Thanks,

 

I've had a look at the threads and I still can't get to the little fella, any sage words?

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I believe that you access the camera harness plug by removing the trim from around the latch mechanism in the boot. Unfortunately, I think the rear bumper has to be removed to actually withdraw the camera completely.

 

Also, just a suggestion .....did you check the camera fuse first to make sure that is not the issue? I think its tied into the reverse lamp, a 5A in slot R12??

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I saw one being replaced for this reason at the factory.

 

diffuser off, and long thin arm up between the the bumper and the boot box. It's a long reach job and only for thin arms. The Motorsport engineer I watched almost admitted his arms were too muscular to fit but kept at it and eventually succeeded in putting the new one in. 

 

Otherwise it's bumper off.

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Oh dear, looks like I might have to face the dealer bill, I don't fancy taking the bumper off.

Thanks for the help.

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I bought a new original spec one for about £100 from a local car audio specialist (that were recommended to me by the main dealer as easier than getting one from their own suppliers) and then paid Silverstone Lotus about £100 to fit it.

£650 is bullxxxx

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Was that a quote from Lipscomb, aren't you close to me in Addington if I remember? If so, let me know and I'll put you in touch with some much more economical options. 

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Have you tried a local car audio specialist? I was chatting to these guys http://www.accutek.co.uknear Winchester, they know Lotus' pretty well. You may find a local specialist that does work for the dealer...... ;-)

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hi guys my camera has also just went a few days ago after washing i put the car straight i the garage, in the morning when reversing it was fine clear as day then 20minutes later when reversing into a space it had went black and fuzzy, 
i have contacted lotus and they are £175 for the alpine one supplied and fitted which is a lot of money for what it is, I've seen some others post links to other alternatives which a a massive difference in price not sure if anyone on here can help me and tell me if any of these are any good, cheers 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170-CMOS-Anti-Fog-Night-Vision-Waterproof-Car-Rear-View-Reverse-Backup-Camera-/350940633670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51b5b11a46

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181133652040?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649&clk_rvr_id=804048636045&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

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the second one is on par with the alpine quality one (which is fairly average). The LEDs do nothing at all really, least on the IR version I had.

They tend to have lines on most of the china versions though so be wary. I actually removed the lines by grounding the pin on the eeprom on the camera but since the PCB inside them vary a lot you cant guarantee that they can all be modified in the same way

I actually fitted that camera into a 05 Range Rover L322 to replace the OEM one. Was a huge improvement both during daytime and night.. quite comical really that a 13 quid camera blows the 300 quid oem version out the water.

I tracked down one with a sony CCD which was better quality again.

Once you’ve got standard video cable to the boot its fairly trivial to test and swap cameras if they fail too as opposed to faffing around with the alpine control unit rubbish underneath the sub

Edited by Ryanmt

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I am going to get someone else to fit the camera as I'm not the best with they sort of things best leaving it to the experts so I'm now just trying to work out if I'm cheaper paying lotus the £175 for the alpine one supplied and fitted or if i can still buy a cheaper one on ebay and have a garage fit the camera 

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Yes - an hour or so to fit and about £50 to buy at most - around the £100 all in at a local garage

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all the ones I've seen on ebay are hong kong bound, does anyone have any links to ones in the UK that are cheap in price and just as good. 

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My O.E camera stopped working so I investigated and the camera had become semi detatched from it's pressed steel casing and was letting water in. I prised the camera apart and unplugged it from the casing wiring directly behind the camera. Dried it out for a few hours then reattached and tested it before re bonding it back together with UHU glue. That was at the start of winter. Probably something else wrong withyours though....Think I got lucky, : )

Edited by sellman

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right guys I've decided that I'm not going to bother paying the 175 for the alpine one to be supplied and fitted, Craig from Lotus even said to me if he was me just buy one of the cheaper ones and try it as it would be a cheap fix if so, 

 

can anyone give me some links to a few choices i have which you recommend are just as good or better than the alpine one thats currently in it, cheers guys  :unworthy:

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I've bought a £13.95 HD CCD 170 degrees camera from ebay that will take about 3/4 weeks delivery due to it being in hong kong, to have it fitted all i need is cable lengthened along the side of the car to the boot I've been told apparently, the £13 one is also meant to blow the £175 alpine camera out of the water which is pretty mental so at that price it was worth buying and hoping its a cheap fix

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Yippee - that's a bargain - more money left for the tyre fund

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I've bought a £13.95 HD CCD 170 degrees camera from ebay that will take about 3/4 weeks delivery due to it being in hong kong, to have it fitted all i need is cable lengthened along the side of the car to the boot I've been told apparently, the £13 one is also meant to blow the £175 alpine camera out of the water which is pretty mental so at that price it was worth buying and hoping its a cheap fix

Any chance you could share the link for this? Interesting to see how the eBay camera connects. I think the Alpine HCE-C115 has a separate processing module that provides the composite video output via RCA phono connector and the power to the sensor (CMOS).

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here is the link to the camera i bought, can you tell me what your take on it is and if it'll be any good 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181133652040?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


well...after taking the car out the garage today the camera came back on and is working perfectly again so it appears it may have either been a loose connection or some water from when i was the car a few nights ago

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Assuming you have the Alpine IVA-505R head unit this will take an RCA phono input (yellow connector marked camera-in) so you should be able to plug the eBay camera in. However you will need to power the camera and/or provide an 'activation' signal from the reversing light (the most common). That's probably not a difficult job, the hardest part would be running the video cable the length of the car.

 

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As you can see from the photo the Alpine reversing camera comes in three parts - the camera itself, an extension cable and then the power supply/video output module. As with everything else in the Evora it's way more complex that it needs to be.

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Can you not use the old video cable to attach to the new camera? If it is not the same connectors, can it not be used to attach the new cable to and pull it through the car? (suitably taped so the connectors do not catch)

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