NedaSay 863 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Delayed by 2 years but still moving forward despite the parent company's turmoil.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LotusLeftLotusRight 1,425 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 They'll just launch it in time for the SUV fad to have passed them by... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJ 1,509 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 A proper 4-seater is the only new Lotus I would be interested in buying, so I wonder how many other possible sales are going to be missed out on in the next 4-years? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malcolm Feth 476 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 i'm now waiting for a lotus diesel too. Marc has a big push to sell quantity. That's what porsche did too Quote www.facebook.com/nineteen80one | www.nineteen80one.com Link to post Share on other sites
Chillidoggy 4,476 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Indeed. And Lotus could call it the Scotch Bonnet. Quote Margate Exotics. Link to post Share on other sites
silverfrost 1,390 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Yes seems a long way off 4 years Quote A Link to post Share on other sites
j2 lot 30 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I agree with comments above. An SUV is what buyers currently want but Lotus are behind the game and in 4 years they may well have missed the trend or be fighting for a very small corner of a crammed market. Unless they come to market with hybrid / electric power or something innovative (like the Elise was in the 90's) I worry that it will be bought by ' grown up' current owners and won't increase the market they currently have or raise the brand. Lotus should have capitalised on the original Tesla tie-in and been producing cars using that tech for the last 10 years. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
franjipane 245 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I'd buy I lotus SUV, like many families they're good for family trips with the dog. All the choices available currently are a bit rubbish or boring in one way or another. If they can solve the handling issue and make it fun to drive then yea, I'm in. I don't mind it not happening for a few years, lots of people will still need an SUV type of vehicle in 2020, 2025 and so on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j2 lot 30 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 That's my point in a way, I would too but we're already Lotus owners, they need an SUV right now that people will buy instead of the new Alfa SUV or the capable and desirable RR, Discos, Jag, Porsche, Maserati, Jeep etc. A small specialist sports car manufacturer with no 4x4 background has to have a good USP ro sell their 4x4 against the established players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
auRouge 438 Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Can anyone understand how low volume SUV will make money? "Gales believes the SUV has the potential to double or even treble Lotus’s planned annual sales volume of 4000 units — more than double today’s figure — once its next generation of sports cars is in production early in the next decade for sale in all major global markets." http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/lotus-suv-could-challenge-porsche-macan-2022 This is hardly mega money given the investment / burden of the project. Imagine how many Macan's have been sold! Volume makes money in the SUV market.. Isnt this a drop in the ocean when the likes of JLR, BMW, VAG and Porsche sell in the tens of thousands a year?! I want to be more positive but think a cheap "MX5" competitor (two seat Lotus Elan ragtop) for about £25k would be the answer to profit and less risk... You know everyone would want one!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
auRouge 438 Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 If it looks like this the wife is getting one You can see Evora DNA in this image, I quite like it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
franjipane 245 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 That looks nice but is too low and doesn't look like it has enough boot space for a big dog. In fact I think it looks more like a hatchback with oversized wheels, or an Evora with botox 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chillidoggy 4,476 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 My son works for Ford, and he says the emphasis is going to be on hybrid/electric vehicles in the near future. Driverless is also going to with us sooner than we think, too. Quote Margate Exotics. Link to post Share on other sites
auRouge 438 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Light up a cigar... the end is near ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,794 Posted January 22, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Driverless. Yeah when banks cannot even get their ATM networks working and simple mobile phones freeze. I'm a dinosaur but someone I just do not see the public taking to driverless cars. I can see the advantages to legislators, but not to people. 5 years ago electric cars were going to take over tge world. Still less than 1% of all cars sold in the UK aren't they? Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
auRouge 438 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 18 hours ago, franjipane said: That looks nice but is too low and doesn't look like it has enough boot space for a big dog. In fact I think it looks more like a hatchback with oversized wheels, or an Evora with botox True but isnt this what sells to gazillions of people who live in the city, use the internet to shop, don't go off road and probably don't have a ? But I know what you mean? They need to appeal to the right market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Dan E 1,596 Posted January 22, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 It all comes down to lawyers to be honest, they have got to decide if driverless cars kill the driver or the kid run out in front of them that will hold it up for years in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
franjipane 245 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 @auRouge tell me about it! That's the family car my missus wants haha. She loves driving the m100 elan and was well pleased to hear lotus have an SUV on the way. The mock-up wouldn't work though as the distance from the top of the rear wheel to the top of the car is much less than the height of the wheel itself! On the evoque (I think that's the white one pictured?) There's simply more height, so is a bit more practical. Tbh I don't mind the look of them, just so long as I can still keep my Esprits 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 863 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Interesting artistic rendering from Angelo Polo Gallardo For more : http://www.carscoops.com/2017/05/this-vision-of-upcoming-lotus-suv-is.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,794 Posted May 10, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Isn't that frog quite poisonous? Something to do woth its sweat glands iirc. Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
theelanman 512 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Interesting.........I dont expect to pay insurance with a driverless car........ why should I.......Im not in control therefore not responsible for what it hits... infact the people who are providing these things should be responsible surely... I didnt design the software that drives the car...they did...... mmmm.......wonder what thats going to do to the insurance industry Quote The Faster You Drive...The Slower You Age (Albert Einstein 14 March 1879 - 18 April 1955) Link to post Share on other sites
auRouge 438 Posted May 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 @theelanman https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2017/apr/07/autonomous-vehicles-will-only-work-when-they-stop-pretending-to-be-autonomous Back to the SUV... There's so many out there to choose from! I personally like SUV's for the family stuff, it's unnecessary but comfortable and cost no more than an estate so let's get over it! If the Lotus SUV is to do well I'd suggest benchmarking the F-Pace as a minimum! it's selling errr rather well... in fact the fastest selling Jag in the manufactures history!! https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/08/29/f-pace-sets-record-as-fastest-selling-jaguar-in-companys-history/amp/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
100th_Idiot 372 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 On 2017-5-10 at 09:41, theelanman said: Interesting.........I dont expect to pay insurance with a driverless car........ why should I.......Im not in control therefore not responsible for what it hits... infact the people who are providing these things should be responsible surely... I didnt design the software that drives the car...they did...... mmmm.......wonder what thats going to do to the insurance industry This is insurance companies you have this expectation for. They are going to charge you for insurance for accidental damage (tree limbs, shopping carts, hit by uninsured third parties in manual cars) and they are going to charge the car manufacturers for when the vehicle is driving itself. Now. Do you expect your premiums to reduce? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theelanman 512 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 they're never going away so they'll find something to charge someone for....lol Quote The Faster You Drive...The Slower You Age (Albert Einstein 14 March 1879 - 18 April 1955) Link to post Share on other sites
auRouge 438 Posted June 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Under Geely if they can boast lightweight and electric then I reckon they still stand a chance to really change things like Porsche did with the original Cayenne... JC slated it but it's what the market wanted and made a lot of financial sense for Porsche... Lotus, pls do something new for Pete's sake!! ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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