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Esprit spares, part numbers, cross references and sources


swindon_alan

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Hello all

 

I have taken on a personal mission to attempt to help forum members to find spares to keep their wonderful Esprits on the road. As mine was badly damaged in an accident, I have been on what I have found to be an interesting journey of scouring forums, web sites and suppliers to get the bits and pieces to put it back together again.

 

This mission is not an easy one as there are obviously many parts used on the various models over the twenty eight odd years of production.

 

I have been giving this quite a lot of thought about how to achieve a definite list and cross reference, along with sources and suppliers:

 

1. There are a number of spreadsheets and lists on the 'net, such as those from Dr Hess, the Esprit Fact File and Ian Russell's. Of course there is also a huge gold mine of information on TLF as well.

2. However, to be collate and distill all of these sources together and to be accurate would take more waking hours than I have left to go in my life. And to be honest, I couldn't be stuffed to do that :-p

3. Lotus part numbers are all very well but not everybody has the part number manuals, so they are somewhat abstract.

4. My feeling is that most people who want a spare or an alternative ask for it by name, e.g. "where do you get a cooling fan motor for an S4?" or "what's the interior light off from an S1?"

5. Up until now I have been posting on specific parts, such as rads/fans/cowlings, washer bottles, aircon condensors and so on and covering all of the models produced in one thread. I think this makes it easier to focus in on one particular parts area, regardless of the year or model type.

6. A lot of the info around is apocryphal, such as "it fits but I had to get an hacksaw to it" which is all very well but NOT definitive.

7. Many of the parts threads on TLF are getting on for ten years old so a fair amount of info on suppliers or alternative part numbers could well be out of date. I'm more interested in what is out there NOW to fix current repairs, rebuilds and upgrades.

 

So. What to do?

 

Well, I am happy to offer my services on an "as required" basis. When a forum member needs a spare I will build up a relevant all model thread, look back at all of the old spreadsheets, databases, forum threads and so on to get a good handle on the part. Then I will pursue whatever references I can find to be able to get the spare.

 

This means that it will be quite current, much less work than trying to do the whole bloody lot and rather satisfying to me if it makes someone happy :-)

 

All I need to do this is a model/year, possibly a photo of the part and any identifying marks or numbers. Or obviously anything that you know about it's provenance.

 

Bibs is going to sort the forum to accommodate this approach when he has some time in his busy schedule. But for now, what do you all think? Is this a good idea? Any better suggestions?

 

I'm obviously only doing this because in three year's time I will be needing that gabblewotchit pin for the rear top link in my V8 suspension and won't know where to get one...

 

 

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I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob)

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Huge task, but worthwhile good luck with it.

Also here's one for you. 83/84 S3 NA tailgate gas struts, VW MK3 Golf tailgate, perfect length and strength with same fittings.

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Sounds like a bloody great plan...... If I could do emoji things proper you see some bowing down ones now taking their hat off to you......

Mines running ace - and £50 cheaper - and it's thanks to Alan for finding the correct cross ref.....

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Alan, I think you've done some incredibly detailed work, and I'm impressed with your tenacity!

I must confess to being slightly nervous about where this could end up, and by that I mean if it really takes off it could potentially put Lotus specialist parts suppliers out of work. I know that might sound alarmist, but I do believe that we should support the parts suppliers wherever we can. I know that some of them reproduce obsolete parts, and that's a good thing, but the trouble is, low-volume production doesn't always pay due to the high cost of manufacture, and the need to make a profit.

So for me, as long as it's restricted to obsolete, difficult to find, or jaw-droppingly expensive parts, it think it would be a good thing, and there are certainly enough of those around! I do think more run-of-the-mill parts should be left to the suppliers, though.

Margate Exotics.

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I'm afraid it's the reality of globalisation and the Internet.

Businesses need to deliver true value added now - rather than just milk the savvy punter dry...... You just cant do that to everyone in today's world. There are of course folks with piles of cash making their mattresses lumpy and uncomfortable - and fair play to them. These folks typically don't really care how expensive bits are and will buy where they choose.

Some of the parts Alan has sourced for his and others have had huge....and I mean huge eye watering margins placed upon them. Put simply - would you pay £7.50 for a loaf of bread? There's a market for that £7.50 loaf in some posh delis I have no doubt......

Anyone undermining someone else's IP and intrinsically devaluing their business - that's sure not right....... But I don't see anyone criticising the likes of some of the after market folks whom sell exhausts etc directly in competition with lotus......

Just a view, my one, and am more than happy to be told it's bollox and still smile..........

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Sounds like a good system Alan,  Many thanks in advance i'm sure it'll be of great benefit to all of us

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This is fantasic, thank you Alan, thrice!

 

Just my 10 cents re supporting suppliers, granted I haven't made an exhaustive search but some of the parts they 'supply' are not just hugely marked up, they're absolutely scandalous. I can't remember the exact figure but I saw a clutch release bearing for an S2 on one prolific supplier's site - there were two options: The first approx £130... already ridiculous, and the other heading for £300. Pardon my French but seriously... WTF?

 

 

Huge task, but worthwhile good luck with it.

Also here's one for you. 83/84 S3 NA tailgate gas struts, VW MK3 Golf tailgate, perfect length and strength with same fittings.

 

John, do you know if that apply to S2's aswell?

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hi Georhe, not to sure about S2 but if you check the specs, i.e length etc I would imagine they would be as the tailgate is roughly the sane weight.

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We now have a sub forum devoted to this very topic!

Thanks Bibs!

I will work on getting this populated on a continuous basis by trawling through the forums. Any pointers to previous threads or posts, new cross reference info on any Esprit model are very welcome, I will aggregate them into single threads on part types.

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I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob)

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hers one, most people will tell you that the clutch slave cylinder on a Renault gearbox car is the same as a Land Rover series II IIa, well it is in all but one aspect, the clutch line output, the LR one I bought was too small, however at only £10 it was cheap enough and gave up its insides to refrub my old one.

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Or just use a 3/8 UNF to 7/16 UNF Male to Female adaptor...   Still much cheaper than buying an original slave.  I fitted one about 2 weeks ago.  

NB  - That info is for a G Turbo, may need someone to confirm there was no change to metric for later cars (although the LR cylinder is definitely 3/8 UNF)

 

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On 13/06/2015 at 12:43, swindon_alan said:

. My feeling is that most people who want a spare or an alternative ask for it by name, e.g. "where do you get a cooling fan motor for an S4?" or "what's the interior light off from an S1?"

to add to this, (i hadnt seen this thread)     but I started a freely editable spreadsheet that anyone can pop onto and add/correct information based on what they know or come across, its open, and anyone can just make an edit to the information..   i had a thread based on it in the cross reference secion of the forum.   I initally did it for eclat/elite as i found a lot of disperate sources and i wanteed to bring them together/crowdsource information, so that its not just one person undertaking the task. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1746WogW57q_L65fECYfSIuAJiKpe8Xm74DU4lb5ystA/edit#gid=0

here if anyones interested/wants to contribute.   

ta,

Mark

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