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The BMW E46 is still reasonably common, but nowhere near as ubiquitous as it once was.

What does seem to have nearly vanished from the face of the earth, however, is the first generation Mercedes ML. To be fair, I know why they've vanished. My parents owned one in the late 90s and it was dire.


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29 minutes ago, swindon_alan said:

You do if you are @march...

Yep - saw 3 of them today, common as muck. The hard bit is seeing a roadworthy one :P.

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March is like an adult with a collection of fading No 6 cigarette coupons. Personally very valuable but ultimately well. Fading.

(personal disclaimer - I adore TR7s, well TR8s actually)

Bung me one March, I have a Rover V8 3.9 LPG awaiting a full torque Kent cam and a gorgeous 70's wedge Triumph that is gagging for it... 


I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob)

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I have a MiG, my dad was a welder. Do I qualify?

Only joshing about the fading thing Marc. We both know that these are sleeping high value classics mate...


I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob)

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That's what the other one is going to be like when it is back to it's rallying glory - just not particularly soon as just about every panel needs work on it :wallbash:

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Hopefully he brings a dustpan and brush to tidy up the rust :rofl:


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I always thought it was a shame the 16v Sprint engine never made it into the production TR7's. I think there may be a few around, but the 8V engine just didn't hit the spot. Until the V8, of course. I too, reckon the TR7 market will be picking up, and the prices may well start to rise for decent examples. I do remember the build quality was, well, typical Leyland, though. They were all the same at that time.

As a budding engineer, I was impressed with the technology in the 16V engine. At the age of 17, I was fortunate enough to borrow a Dolomite Sprint with only 2,600 miles on the clock for a weekend. Given my car at the time was an asthmatic old Ford Cortina, it was a revelation, and I think I only climbed out of it to sleep. Later, a friend of mine bought a Sprint with an ex-race engine in it, the thing would rev to 8,500, and went like stink, but broke down about every 50 miles!

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It's a shame they never offered the TR7 with 2 engine options from the start.  The 4 pot and the Rover V8.  It might have helped the TR7s reputation.  I guess the 73 oil crisis put a stop to that.

Loved the TR7 as a kid, especially the FHC :)

 

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The TR7 Tracer, someone would think they tried to build a lotus elite replica :)

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59 minutes ago, ian29gte said:

I always thought it was a shame the 16v Sprint engine never made it into the production TR7's

It did! but only in limited numbers. In fact my new body shell was intended to be a replacement for a works supported 16V car KDU 488N many years ago but was never used. And for other rally aficionados my red one is an ex Chris Birkbeck car who also used to race ex works TR7 V8's.

@CHANGES - You had an Ex Tony Pond car - Wow, just Wow (getting goosebumps just thinking about it). Now for the cheeky ask - have you got any photos of the engine bay (probably getting a bit too excited now), the interior -  well any photos at all would be of great help. Oh and you don't happen to have an works sump guard loafing somewhere that could do with a new home :).

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2 hours ago, march said:

It did! but only in limited numbers. In fact my new body shell was intended to be a replacement for a works supported 16V car KDU 488N many years ago but was never used. And for other rally aficionados my red one is an ex Chris Birkbeck car who also used to race ex works TR7 V8's.

 

Just had a look at Wiki for the Sprint-engines cars, it says, '59 prototype and pre-production cars' with the Sprint engine. Pretty rare beasts in that case!


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A friend of mine has a couple of TR7s in various states. One is now running, another one with 16V dolomite sprint rally motor (brand new shelf blueprinted) still needs rebuilding...


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7 hours ago, march said:

 

@CHANGES - You had an Ex Tony Pond car - Wow, just Wow (getting goosebumps just thinking about it). Now for the cheeky ask - have you got any photos of the engine bay (probably getting a bit too excited now), the interior -  well any photos at all would be of great help. Oh and you don't happen to have an works sump guard loafing somewhere that could do with a new home :).

I will have a look in the loft, years of old photo's up there, not sure what has survived but bound to be something to help.. which factory rally engine bay did you want to see, 16V or V8... for obvious reasons they were different.. a lot thought the 16V was close to the 8V std.. but not so it was a different animal.. ( a few points )  Dual brake master with bias bar , twin servo, strut brace , cut back and drilled chassis rails, various gussets and strengthening plates etc.  GP4 top roller mounts (same as escort but with different bearing )  The sub frame was a special on the lines of the V8 , both engine mounts to it, which pushed the engine back, special ARB mounts and steering column , bespoke wiring loom , twin 48 webbers  LCB with full spring held slip joints. Rolled back and enlarged trany tunnel..  battery tray removed and twin 12v dry cell fitted in the boot for 24v start and 12v run,

Here is a shot of the works dash set up,  Tripmaster on the left with two pee tights and stop watch holders to the left of that which can not be seen.. this was all on a blank out of the glove box and a map case was underneath. on the n/s door card there should be a flexy map light, the dash is all covered in black cloth to stop reflection on screen.  The black button on lower center dash is the co-drivers horn button. On center top dash switch panel left and right you can make out two more pee lights.   

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There is so much more details I can tell you.  , most is in my head, Far to much to put on this thread, So PM me with anything you need to know , only to happy to pass on info... 

hope this helps.. 

D

ps  sorry no factory sump guard lying around. but there were two types used , early short later long.   will look for pic's 

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Sorry to mention it Dave, but look to me like there's a bubble or two on that dashboard.:sofa:


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