Popular Post ramjet 1,086 Posted November 14, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 A friend of mine up the street said that Trump had a press conference and still will not concede that he has lost. By his own words apparently, he doesn't like to lose. As far as I am concerned, he has very quickly become the biggest loser in history. If not the biggest, then quite definitely the sorest. 3 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
mg4lotus 136 Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 @Loquacious Lew @C8RKH Get a room guys 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramjet 1,086 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 A joke for everyone. Q) What is the difference between Richard Nixon and Donald Trump? A) Richard Nixon was honest. 1 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
EldonZ 63 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Honest to the Public or to Himself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramjet 1,086 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 In comparison to DT Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
EldonZ 63 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 @ramjetYes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,250 Posted November 17, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Lol - really. Come on guys there's a bit of historic nostalgia and rose tinted specs here. Nixon was undoubtedly worse as he was so deceitful and went to great lengths to cover it all up. Whereas Trump is so daft he just puts it all out there on Twitter and doesn't have the ability to be dark, sinister or Machiavellian about it. So to say Nixon was more honest than Trump really is the joke in my very humble opinion. Now, if you'd said Trump was a joke....... 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
EldonZ 63 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 My point was that Nixon was dishonest to the Public but honest to Himself. He wasn't trying to make up a reality that didn't exist therefore he did not lie to himself. Trump tries to create a reality that he believes exists or wants to exits thus he is very dishonest to himself. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loquacious Lew 335 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 I think that's perhaps speculative in an absolute sense. , Regarding Nixon's "honesty," It's hard to say with certainty that he wasn't convinced that his actions were justifiable, in his mind and more especially lately, the minds of many conservatives. There has been a steadily increasing rearrangement of historical "facts" that attempt to exonerate Nixon, always on partisan grounds. In reality, he was a dishonest creep with a foul mouth (very un-Quaker like), a vindictive streak and known associations with organized crime. If one thinks he didn't gloss over those traits when self-evaluating, one might reconsider, although now I'm speculating! Lately, a lot of Americans are prepared to to just do that in the "battle to the death against socialist creep" that makes it impossible for any Republican (except Bush 2, a RINO) to do any wrong. Very tribal thinking, such notions are difficult to alter in their minds because belief trumps fact, mainly because they don't pay attention day to day. . There's no way of knowing if Nixon was contrite but he stopped well short of acknowledging any wrong doing in public. That said, no president in our history was as bat shit crazy as Trump is. 2 Quote '17 Evora 400 MT Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,250 Posted November 18, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 17/11/2020 at 12:09, EldonZ said: My point was that Nixon was dishonest to the Public but honest to Himself. He wasn't trying to make up a reality that didn't exist therefore he did not lie to himself. Trump tries to create a reality that he believes exists or wants to exits thus he is very dishonest to himself. I think were you took about "dishonesty" what you really mean is deluded/delusional, in other words "Trump tries to create a reality that he believes exists or wants to exist thus he is very deluded/delusional". I think Nixon absolutely knew he was being downright dishonest to everyone including himself. Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
andydclements 754 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 For me the pertinent difference between them is that thankfully back then we didn't have a portal into the mind of Nixon, unfortunately now there seems to be a neural link from Trump's mind to his Social Media streams. That's a disturbing picture of his mind, the mind of the man with the big button to make the world a dustbowl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EldonZ 63 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, C8RKH said: I think were you took about "dishonesty" what you really mean is deluded/delusional, in other words "Trump tries to create a reality that he believes exists or wants to exist thus he is very deluded/delusional". I think Nixon absolutely knew he was being downright dishonest to everyone including himself. Delusional is just a polite or PC way of saying that the person is lying to themselves. Later, Eldon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramjet 1,086 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 It was a joke guys. That I made up myself...... 1 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
ramjet 1,086 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 I am wondering and possibly our US members can let us know how this works? As I understand it, once there has been an election and there is a new president elect decided, that he should be included on daily security, Covid briefings etc. I am led to believe that this is not happening due to Trump's ongoing challenges to the democratic process. At any point, do his actions become illegal or non-constitutional? If there is, who enforces it? Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
EldonZ 63 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 It is actually not up to Trump but a group called the GSA. Unfortunately, Trump appointed a loyalist to the management position and that person will not release the funds, etc. until the election results have been certified. This could be stretched until the Electoral College votes and that election is certified by Congress. This could push everything off until mid-December. If Trump would concede then the process could start now. Later, Eldon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,250 Posted November 18, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 58 minutes ago, EldonZ said: It is actually not up to Trump but a group called the GSA. Unfortunately, Trump appointed a loyalist to the management position and that person will not release the funds, etc. until the election results have been certified. This could be stretched until the Electoral College votes and that election is certified by Congress. This could push everything off until mid-December. If Trump would concede then the process could start now. Later, Eldon The more I learn (and thanks Eldon for the above) the more I think that we got it wrong in the UK. Johnson is not Trumps son. That's preposterous. But Corbyn is his long lost brother! I mean, their behaviours in their attempts to cling on to office at any cost are the same almost... 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Loquacious Lew 335 Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 21 hours ago, EldonZ said: It is actually not up to Trump but a group called the GSA. Unfortunately, Trump appointed a loyalist to the management position and that person will not release the funds, etc. until the election results have been certified. This could be stretched until the Electoral College votes and that election is certified by Congress. This could push everything off until mid-December. If Trump would concede then the process could start now. Later, Eldon Correct. The hang up is that Trump gutted many agencies and installed unqualified but loyal minions to do his bidding . The GSA is one agency he rearranged some time ago, likely in preparation for this day. He has corrupted the process and while he retains the title, it's hard if not impossible to work around him and his henchmen. He is capping off the daily damage he already has done with a total disregard for what comes after him. Scorched earth, l'etat c'est moi, apres nous, le deluge. That's really his goal, to throw a spanner in the works, since the election results will not change no matter how hard he wishes it so. Quote '17 Evora 400 MT Link to post Share on other sites
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Bibs 11,143 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Deepfake from the creators of South Park... 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM tomcattom 216 Posted December 15, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Not sure if anyone has already posted this: loser.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mg4lotus 136 Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Pardons - Virtually an admission there was collaboration with the Russians? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loquacious Lew 335 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 The only good news about those unwarranted pardons is that the recipients can no longer refuse to answer questions, (plead the 5th amendment in American parlance) and must answer questions while on the stand without the usual protections afforded by the constitution against self-incrimination. In other words, they can't claim things like "executive privilege" and they definitely can't refuse to answer or lie while under oath without the possibility of severe repercussions. This may become a factor down the road if Democrats elect to pursue any related crimes aggressively. 2 Quote '17 Evora 400 MT Link to post Share on other sites
andydclements 754 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Well, it seems that telling voters that the election is rigged has an effect. One of making people that believe him, not bothering to vote. Somehow he seems to be the only person that couldn't see that chain of events. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EldonZ 63 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 I am just trying to figure out his long game. He is found out that it is easier to make money as a politician because people just give it to you. He has also figured out how to redirect it so that it goes in to his pocket. So, the question is, How long can he keep up this grift? Later, Eldon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drdoom 399 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 So hey, what's new today?? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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