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3 hours ago, ian29gte said:

rather scrummy '95 Argentinian Malbec from Waitrose

1982 pass you by? I only drink Malbec from SW France. Tastes nicer too :D

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As one of the Americans who converses here, let me get this out of the way.  Whew.   YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY.       There are  many things to say and consider.  We won a big one.  It's scar

But at least he didn't start a war, legal or otherwise like the previous Presidential trend before him. Every cloud and all that. I'm no Trump fan (to be honest reasonably ambivalent as it's your

Congratulations USA 

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Two Senators per state. Number of Representatives (currently 435) varies by population size of the state.

Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose.

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14 minutes ago, Bibs said:

I only drink Malbec from SW France. Tastes nicer too :D

Almost as good as Night Train Express Red.:sofa:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37932231

it would appear that democracy is getting tested again......

surely when you vote in something you agree to the result.........bit like Brexit.........

then those who don't like the outcome protest..........

so f**in what......the result is the result end of.......(or should be)

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but both candidates were as bad as each other.......

the only difference being the Clinton has been in 'office' before.....

 

 

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The Faster You Drive...The Slower You Age

(Albert Einstein  14 March 1879 - 18 April 1955)

 

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Just in case you haven't yet seen it..... Google

WANKPUFFIN

and see what comes back....

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Scientists investigate that which already is; Engineers create that which has never been." - Albert Einstein

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Don't know what all the fuss is about. I've been trapping wankpuffins for years in my backyard. They taste just like chicken.

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From today's local rag...

(not responsible for neck injuries incurred during viewing)

 

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Yep, but that is because it is rigged John. ;) 

All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit.

Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others.

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There are initiatives to secede from the U.S. afoot in both California and Oregon. They are only partly in jest. 

To paraphrase Brewer & Shipley, they are only one joke over the line, sweet Jesus.

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Love him or hate him his views have been consistent and you cannot say he is not a patriot!  Interesting time line of interviews on video here:

I do believe his right wing comments and rhetoric were a foil to grab the attention and stir things up to win.

His winning campaign spent $500m, Clinton's losing campaign spent $1.5bn.

Go figure who is smart and who is dumb.

His time as president elect has shown he can step up to the statesman role. Let's hope it is not a short lived act. Personally, I think he is smarter than that.

 

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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From "Politifact" (graphs distorted [but still decipherable] when pasted to this post. Upper graph is Clinton, lower is Trump; use link below if interested in more detail)

Comparing Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter

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Compare the Truth-O-Meter scorecards of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

Clinton

Hillary Clinton

Democrat from New York

Clinton's statements by ruling

Click on the ruling to see all of Clinton's statements for that ruling.

Trump

 

 

 

Donald Trump

Republican from New York

 

 

Trump's statements by ruling

Click on the ruling to see all of Trump's statements for that ruling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

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From www.mediaite.com

"According to a new NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll, seventy-two percent of registered Republicans “still doubt” the President's place of birth. Forty-one percent outright disagreed with the statement, “Barack Obama was born in the United States,” while only twenty-seven percent of Republicans agree."Aug 11, 2016

 

Image result for obama birth certificate

 

These are the voters who chose our next President. :(

 

 

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From www.mediaite.com

"According to a new NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll, seventy-two percent of registered Republicans “still doubt” the President's place of birth. Forty-one percent outright disagreed with the statement, “Barack Obama was born in the United States,” while only twenty-seven percent of Republicans agree."Aug 11, 2016

 

Image result for obama birth certificate

 

These are the voters who chose our next President. :(

 

 

Fascinating that the record includes the race of father and mother. Has this changed since 1961? And the question "Is residence a farm or plantation"?!! Hell's teeth....

Scientists investigate that which already is; Engineers create that which has never been." - Albert Einstein

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On 09/11/2016 at 21:09, C8RKH said:

I hate the Daily Mail but this popped up on Google news.

Remainers. Clinton supporters. SNP Indyref supporters. what is it about losing a genuinely democratic vote that these supposed supporters of democracy just do not get?

They can't understand the people who voted against them. They think they have the morale high ground. They use the high ground to throw stones.

And they say Trump is nasty!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3920168/Trump-victory-sets-protests-California-Oregon.html

You see this happening all the time. Those who claim to have the right morals, are the first to protest a democratic outcome they don't like, and go on insulting everyone who has a different opinion. It seems it's rarely the ones that are most feared that actually start what eventually could lead to riots..

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On 09/11/2016 at 20:16, march said:

I have just heard that Hillary Clinton polled more votes than Trump but due to the current Electoral College system voters location mattered, so not really one person one vote - Does anyone know if this is true?

no different than here really as seats based

 

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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