chappardababbar Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Hi, I'm still looking... Question for those with little ones, who have upgraded from an Evora to an Evora 400....what difference have you noticed to the room for back seat occupants? I understand this was one of the improvement made to the 400. I don't expect it to be roomy but I'm wondering if the change is significant enough that you notice it. Lotus hasn't quantified the change in any documentation I've come across so I'm interested to hear real owners experiences? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi Yasir and welcome. it's quantified in our review, have a look here http://www.thelotusforums.com/latest-news/lotus-cars-news/driven-evora-400/ Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappardababbar Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Thank you for the response - I see you have noted that the rear seats are 280mm wider but to your second point, are back seat occupant able to put their feet under the seats because the front seat has been raised? or has the floor been lowered? I'm guessing this will only be applicable to adults whose feet will touch the floor, for small children is the distance from the back seat back rest to the back of the front seats the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 The seats haven't been raised nor the floor lowered, just the seats are a different shape which have room for feet underneath. The rear backrest hasn't moved so dependant on the front seat, the distances are the same. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappardababbar Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Thank you, great review by the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2 lot Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I haven't read the review yet ( I will, I promise) but isn't it the case that the new front seats are thinner so there's more room in the back? My Evora in the position I drove has zero rear leg room , in the Evora 400 in the showroom there was about a handswith of rear leg room in my preferred driving position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAS-118 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Hi - I'm interested in the usability of the Evora 400's rear seats as I have a 14 year old teenage daughter whose about 5'4. I'm aware of this thread https://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/28630-real-world-useability-of-rear-seats/ on the original Evora but I wonder if anyone can confirm their experience of the 400. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuno1 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Regarding leg room between the s1 and 400. The seat base ends at the front of the rear seat. The S1 rear seats cushion overhang the front of the base by and inch or two. The seat back also looks to be thinner on the 400 than the s1. Both of these combined makes a difference to the position of the rear passanger. As such I would expect there to be a reasonable improvement. Maybe an extra 1-2 inches actual leg room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin P Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Regret to say that (and I don't understand why) but my 11 year old moaned about the S1, but put up occasionally. She refuses to go in the 400. For some reason whilst more spacious legroom wise the S1 was better for her. i had hoped the 400 would buy us another year with her in the back, but the opposite happened. Quote Blessed with the competence to be a slave to the incapable. Currently without a Lotus, Evora 400 Hethel Edition in Racing Green with Red leather and 2010 Evora N/A in Laser Blue and 1983 Lotus Excel LC Narrow body in Ice Blue all sadly gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuno1 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Interesting. May be due so such thin seat and back cushions? Sadly this is where the 911 comes in to play with approx 3 inches more leg room than the s1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted May 20, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Buy a +0 and buy the kids bicycles. Better for you. Better for them. Damn, I'm in a helpful mood tonight..... 1 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickle Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 I've no experience of the S1 unfortunately, but here's a picture of my daughter in the back of a 400 in case it helps. The passenger seat is slid all the way forward in the photo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Is that a recaro monza? I tried the young sport hero and there wasn't that much space. I find a cat 1 seat difficult to fit and have leg room for the kid. My daughter ends up having the leg up above the seat but she doesn't complain about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickle Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Nope, it's a Recaro Milano. I tried the Monza but when it came to it I just couldn't face cutting the access point for the isofix. The photos below show a comparison between the Young Sport Hero, Monza and Milano in decreasing size order. My 3 year old finds the Milano absolutely fine, the only issue being that when she falls asleep she tends to slump forwards. Not sure that she'd have that issue to the same extent in a bigger seat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Thanks a lot, pictures are really helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gm77 Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 On 20/05/2017 at 19:55, Colin P said: Regret to say that (and I don't understand why) but my 11 year old moaned about the S1, but put up occasionally. She refuses to go in the 400. For some reason whilst more spacious legroom wise the S1 was better for her. i had hoped the 400 would buy us another year with her in the back, but the opposite happened. Colin - is this because the seat back on the 400 is more vertical? I got my son to try it with a thin cushion at the base of the backrest and he was much happier and still has the improved legroom. Long term I'm debating getting a custom made cushion that fills the gap between the base of the backrest and the bottom of the cushioned back piece just to support the children's lower backs and put some angle on the seat. This angle point is exactly the same for the 911 convertibles and makes the rear seats uncomfortable . Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin P Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Removing the back pad may help, but it was her knees in the back of the front seat, so hip to knee length. Quote Blessed with the competence to be a slave to the incapable. Currently without a Lotus, Evora 400 Hethel Edition in Racing Green with Red leather and 2010 Evora N/A in Laser Blue and 1983 Lotus Excel LC Narrow body in Ice Blue all sadly gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franjipane Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Looking at the handbook for the 400 it says the carpet around the isofix points is perforated and should push back when you put the isofix points in, but it doesn't feel like the carpet on mine is good but anywhere. Do people remove the padding or is there something I'm missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gm77 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 I haven't used the Isofix in the back but I do know that there is some movement (forwards and backwards only) in the base of the bench seat carpet. So if the carpet is perforated, it may be the case that the perforation is not directly lined up with the isofix mounting points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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