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I'm now 1.500 miles into my Evora 400 and I love it.  it was the best money I have ever spent if it was for just one thing....do any other owners have annoying rattles?  I had an Evora S before the 400 and that had no such issues.  Could it be the firmer suspension set up or are the plastics cheaper and creakier?

I recently took mine for its first service and mentioned them to the dealer and, unsurprisingly, they were unable to do anything about them.  There seem to be a few in the cabin and whilst the exhaust note and radio can generally drown them out I am irritated by them.  If anyone has fixed any rattles, can you guide me as to where to look.  The plastic surround to the infotainment centre looks one area, but the air vents and general dash area also could be suspect.

Sorry to post a gripe about such a spectacular car, but I think it can be even more special with less rattles!

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Definitely not the sort of thing you'd expect from a £75,000 "GT" car. How early is yours? I know Lotus have made some minor changes to the 400 already, as they detect issues and improve on a continual basis.

Is your car leather or alcantara interior? I haven't seen one with the "standard" interior yet

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Umm - my brand new vans going back to Vauxhall as the bulkhead rattles like mad and the sliding doors also..... Just saying

if they can't sort it - I will with some silicon between that panel joint 

still love driving it - but I'd swap it for your lotus in a heartbeat if it's bothering you that much !!

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The cabin can be deceptive about where noises are coming from. I had one I thought was my dash, but on turning my head fully sideways I realised it was coming from the engine bay. I'd have to go take a pic to explain it fully, but in the bay on the left there's a ribbed pipe that was knocking against the cabin glass, just pulled it forward a little touch and sorted. Also, if a passenger hasn't put their belt back properly, the buckle tends to rattle againt the seat back and echo around the cabin. That's all I've had though.

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Glad to hear my future car is rattle free Colin. Keep looking after it for me ;)

I think other £75k+ GT's have squeaks and rattles too, plenty of Aston owners have raised issues on the forums over the V8V's etc - hmmm, another handbuilt beauty. Also come on, get over it Jay, it is after all a handbuilt niche car, something special. Of course a £75k BMW 6 series, a base spartan 911, or a Merc S would not have as many, but come on, hardly comparing apples with apples here in terms of development budgets and facilities are we. When Lotus becomes as common on the street as dog shit, then yes, please feel free to make a statement like that.

After all, your Evora 400 may have the odd rattle and squeak, where your 911 engine might..............

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Actually my 6 series rattled and sqeaked a lot. Both the roof and the seats were pretty bad for it. I would expect any sort of targa-topped car to have issues, but the Evora (at present) is very much not one of those.

None of the Evoras I drove seemed to have any issues though - in fact NVH were superb. The suspension is much better/softer/comfier than either my M3 or my other half's Civic, that will no doubt help. 

I'd recommend seeing if you can get someone in the back of the thing and drive around for a bit, see what's making the noise? I have also been driven mad by seatbelts which have just got caught in the wrong place and started rattling, or something silly like a CD case in a door pocket etc.. My Peugeot van had a hideous rattle that was eventually traced to a slightly loose exhaust bracket - the exhaust was rattling at speed and the noise was being transmitted through the body.

As far as I am concerned @C8RKH if Lotus are to make real progress we can no longer forgive them things for being "a small volume manufacturer" - the people we want to convert don't really care how many they do or don't make, or the fact their whole development budget is what Ferrari spend on steering wheels. The good news is with the current line-up I genuinely believe Lotus can compete on even-terms with the big boys, and that's damn impressive.

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I took delivery of mine in March - got full leather pack.  Overall fit and finish is great, but the rattles are starting to bug me. Must be my OCD!  I'll keep looking, including having a poke in the engine bay.  I think one of the rattles is from the plastic surround for the Alpine. I can see some foam between the top of the surround and the bottom of the dash, so it looks like they may have tried to fix it at some point before delivery.  I don't fancy getting the silicon sealant out yet or it'll end up looking like my shower!  

I guess I'll end up living with it.  I'll let the dealer have the car a bit longer next year for service. Shame though.  Keep the suggestions coming....

 

 

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20 minutes ago, JayEmm said:

As far as I am concerned @C8RKH if Lotus are to make real progress we can no longer forgive them things for being "a small volume manufacturer" - the people we want to convert don't really care how many they do or don't make, or the fact their whole development budget is what Ferrari spend on steering wheels. The good news is with the current line-up I genuinely believe Lotus can compete on even-terms with the big boys, and that's damn impressive.

Sorry Jay but I disagree with you here. Owners have to accept that Lotus is working to a budget and they just do not have the deep pockets of the more mainstream rivals. You can be puritanical and say if they want to play in this space then they need to do this or that. But then, you are not comparing apples with apples. OK, so, you don't think a few squeaks and rattles are the sort of thing you would expect, well what about the engine failures on the Porkers on cars costing more than £75k, even with their very deep R&D pockets and profits?  Let's put some perspective here - what is acceptable, a few squeaks and rattles or a few engines going bang? As a future owner, what would you prefer and find acceptable out of those two things? 

There is a limit to what Lotus can realistically do and I for one think that what they do is bloody good all things considered. Could it be better? Of course it could. Is it perfect? No, of course it is not. But do general sweeping statements like your " Definitely not the sort of thing you'd expect from a £75,000 "GT" car. " really help to move the discussion on, or to entice others, who maybe reading these forum posts as a "potential silent future customer"?

Maybe I'm just a fanboy and need to just fluke off and go and just drive my inferior Evora 2010 NA more rather than come on the forum. But jeez, sometimes the throw away negativity on here just winds me up. Unless of course, no-one has noticed that. :)  It's almost as though people get off on being negative. I've always been a glass half full guy, I guess that's the difference as I just don't get half emptiers.

 

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I appreciate your frustration Andy, but I must be the least effective Lotus basher in history as I've just bought a new one! I come from having previously owned a 996 911, so I understand how infuriating it must be to have people mis-understand issues with cars and paint them all with the same brush.

Steve's experience doesn't seem to tally with the experiences had by other Evora owners, it sounds to me more like he's just been unlucky with his particular car. For this reason I think it's worth looking into. It's probably something really, really minor.

Being proactive @Evorasteve have you tried going out for a drive, perhaps wedging some wooden ice cream sticks in suspect areas (with great care obviously), or laying a firm hand on the suspect area?

If you're in Herts you can't be that far from me so if you haven't have any luck in the next fortnight let me know and I can come over and we can compare notes

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I agree Bibs which is why I was hissed by the general sweeping statement and assertion. I like to think i engage my brain before typing, unfortunately though that does not always work wih my mouth - seems my fingers are better connected to my brain than my mouth - lol

Is that the new Phoenix Red paint job by the way?

 

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I sense that some of the people on this forum were bitten by a Porsche when they were younger...

*runs and hides*

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To be honest, I used to work for a dealer specialising in the older "proper" porsches (air cooled mostly), the reputation surrounding them is definitely not earned. The engines were more reliable than some of their more recent efforts but they had a huge list of niggles and problems, many of which said dealer would choose to ignore (hence I left).

Sorry about the hijack @Evorasteve

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30 minutes ago, JayEmm said:

I appreciate your frustration Andy, but I must be the least effective Lotus basher in history

Looking back through the postings on the various topics I think you have done rather well and I can't wait for your reaction when you've realised that on delivery you have made your car highly undesirable with an expected retail value 50% of it's list price with no takers due to the expected squeaks and rattles and other things. Sounds like a good job to me, pity it will have cost you £35k. ;) Better just to drive the arse out of it to make sure you get your pounds per smile quotient right.

 

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

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That's the trouble with forums though....... And car magazines etc.

 If you read my cars thread - it's full of ups and downs - and at a few points I've hated that car.......however - it's a true thing of beauty - and amazing feat of British engineering. No matter how much she's punished me I'm just a sucker for more........ Maybe I should get a lotus branded gimp mask on order

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That'd be an interesting one for the Lotus Motorsport catalogue Barry. Lotus After Dark range perhaps?

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35 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

Looking back through the postings on the various topics I think you have done rather well and I can't wait for your reaction when you've realised that on delivery you have made your car highly undesirable with an expected retail value 50% of it's list price with no takers due to the expected squeaks and rattles and other things. Sounds like a good job to me, pity it will have cost you £35k. ;) Better just to drive the arse out of it to make sure you get your pounds per smile quotient right.

 

Andy, please try not to take offence from a newbie like me posting but it seems to me like you've been overly harsh to Jay and others who have commented on anything to do with values/depreciation etc. (eg pre/post MY12 improvements) or anything that in your opinion might devalue used cars.

Nothing I've read on this forum has put me off future Evora ownership or devalued them and I'm still considering all ages/models. 

Note: I've owned several TVR's so maybe I'm less easily spooked than most.

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I will confess - I did once consider a 911 but only briefly. I was more tempted with a Tvr but for me the ultimate was a lotus. I love British heritage motoring and it's sad most of it has long gone. I wouldn't ever buy a new one ( that's a rotten lie - if I fell over a pile o cash tomorrow I'd be hotfooting it to a dealers ! ) mainly cos it's the appeal of the historic heritage that does it for me. 

If It squeaks or rattles - just take it back to the dealers and ask nicely that they fix it - I'm sure they will be more than happy to delight you as a customer by fixing the issue. It happens on all makes and models and at all ages. Easier (read cheaper) to fix if it's within a warranty period. If mine rattles or squeaks - I will open the window and hit the pedal on the right - the smile will simply knock my ears off and the problem will be no more

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27 minutes ago, swanny71 said:

Andy, please try not to take offence from a newbie like me posting but it seems to me like you've been overly harsh to Jay and others who have commented on anything to do with values/depreciation etc. (eg pre/post MY12 improvements) or anything that in your opinion might devalue used cars.

No offence Swanny at all. It is a forum and therefore all views, thoughts etc. are invited and are free to be aired. We can all disagree on the details, after all, we're human and by nature we like to disagree ;) Also, I really do not take myself seriously, and am sure Jay and the others don't either and take my comments with a pinch of salt.

I don't think I've been harsh, I think I've tried to point out that some of the comments are, of course in my humble opinion, just lacking in a little something - throw aways that haven't had much thought put in them and they are starting to irritate me and I'm sorry, and apologise, if this irritation has shown itself.

I don't mind at all seeing bad things being written on here about Lotus - the brand, the factory, the products etc., but ONLY, if they are based on fact and help us to improve our understanding, or Lotus to make the products better etc. Now as for Porkers, no facts required and bad mouth away :)

 

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When I see @C8RKH talking about Pre-MY12 cars

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(Sorry, couldn't help myself).

Barry is right though Steve, it's your dealer who should probably be rectifying this. Regardless of the reliability/build/whatever of the model, it is still a NEW car, therefore under warranty and any issues should definitely be sorted for you. Are you going to be coming to the Colchester meet that @Gm77 has organised? We can form a 400 owners knitting circle

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i've done 8000km in mine- until now there is no rattle in my interior. one thing a little anoying is the squeezing sound from the

sparcos during cornering- but hey it's a fun car, not a humor free no nonsense porsche.

i attached a desription to disassemble the interior- should help to locate and get rid of the ratteling noise you suffer.

i used it to cure the, in my opinion, too bright buttons- worked well; big improvement for nightime driving

wolfgang

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On 2 May 2016 at 12:06, C8RKH said:

Sorry Jay but I disagree with you here. Owners have to accept that Lotus is working to a budget and they just do not have the deep pockets of the more mainstream rivals. You can be puritanical and say if they want to play in this space then they need to do this or that. But then, you are not comparing apples with apples. OK, so, you don't think a few squeaks and rattles are the sort of thing you would expect, well what about the engine failures on the Porkers on cars costing more than £75k, even with their very deep R&D pockets and profits?  Let's put some perspective here - what is acceptable, a few squeaks and rattles or a few engines going bang? As a future owner, what would you prefer and find acceptable out of those two things? 

There is a limit to what Lotus can realistically do and I for one think that what they do is bloody good all things considered. Could it be better? Of course it could. Is it perfect? No, of course it is not. But do general sweeping statements like your " Definitely not the sort of thing you'd expect from a £75,000 "GT" car. " really help to move the discussion on, or to entice others, who maybe reading these forum posts as a "potential silent future customer"?

Maybe I'm just a fanboy and need to just fluke off and go and just drive my inferior Evora 2010 NA more rather than come on the forum. But jeez, sometimes the throw away negativity on here just winds me up. Unless of course, no-one has noticed that. :)  It's almost as though people get off on being negative. I've always been a glass half full guy, I guess that's the difference as I just don't get half emptiers.

 

Hmmm, my old 2010 Evora didn't rattle at all after 30k miles and a few trackdays so it proves they can make a rattle free car.

Accepting "Friday" afternoon quality control issues and putting up with a rattle.. Really?!! 

Offering both positive and negative feedback is important. 

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Wow. Old post resurrected.

Offering positive and negative is fine, but let's also take into account size etc to ensure balance in any comparisons - as someone said, what would you prefer, a rattle in the interior or an engine that goes bang?

Lotus do a great job with what they have, and I just think they need a break every now and then. They ain't perfect, but I believe the product is good enough.

My 2010 NA is still rock solid and generally rattle free, even with the crap road surfaces and pot holes up here. I'd forgive it an awful lot.... ;) It's also a problem for Lotus as my Evora is so good I just can't justify the £40k upgrade price to a 400. I know the 400 is a superb car, but for me, it ain't worth £40k more as I doubt I have the skill to drive any Evora faster than I drive my NA on the road and if I was to go track mad I could get a focused track Elise for £20k that I would be prepared to drive very hard, more so than I would a £70k plus 400.

I'll forgive the odd rattle for all the other things an Evora gives elsewhere. Just my pov, I do realise not everyone will agree. And that's fine.

 

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