swindon_alan Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 INFO Lotus description: "Relay, headlamp pod delay module"/"Pod delay module" Lotus part number: *082M6325F Manufacturer: BMI BMI part number: 01208E Cross references: None, specific to the Esprit Status: Obsolete, SJ Sportscars, the Elise Shop, etc. may have stock PHYSICAL BOARD LAYOUT COMPONENTS CIRCUIT DIAGRAM FUNCTIONAL DESCRIPTION"Headlamp Flasher: The headlamp flasher is operative at all times. If the lever is pulled towards the steering wheel against spring pressure, the headlamp pods will rise with the main beams lit. The headlamps go out when the lever is released, but the pods remain raised for a few seconds in order to avoid unnecessary oscillations if the lights are repeatedly flashed." This module provides a delay function of 3.6 seconds (derived from the RC timer component values), as per the above. COMMENTS Nice over engineering but thoughtful! WORKAROUND Use a "standard" ISO Type B relay: Quote I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted May 23, 2016 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 https://www.electricalcarservices.com/Product.aspx?ProductID=1711&L=1&gclid=cnuurqxd78wcfqangwodiyse_a @swindon_alan what about one of these - bet it only needs a resistor swapping inside. no scrap that - don't think theres enough bloody pins great work on these modules - why were they so complex !! Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie111S Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 I did this mod this morning. It works very well. If you hold back the stem and flick the lights they stay up. I really recommend this modification. It always baffled me that when you flash someone to say thanks or give them right of way the lights stay up for ages (it feels like ages). Only point I want to make here is the last photo which in my opinion shows the wrong position to make the install. On my car it is the actual green relay in the photo that needs to be removed and replaced with this modified ISO Type B relay. The photo shows the green relay still installed and the other next to it having the mod. That position in my car is for the electric window voltage check relay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon_alan Posted August 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Hello Eddie, glad you like it. When I first started looking at the modules I got confused as well as mine didn't tie up with a couple of other V8s (or S4s's) then I realised that the slack in wiring means that you can put a connector/module in almost any holder. So mine were wrong and I corrected them as per the manual (you can check yours against that below) after these module posts. Also note that LHD/RHD are different and GT3 also. Plus don't rely on the colour of the module case, they can be almost anything, whatever BMI had to hand I think! 1 Quote I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 That's a great piece of Work. Well done. Now we only need new delay modules (whe one that sit next to the pod motor left side). Cannot even find the needed parts to redo my own. So my pods stays up, once activated... Kind regards, Jacques Quote Nobody does it better - than Lotus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Escape Posted August 10, 2018 Gold FFM Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Something like this could be made to work, with the same wiring mod as a standard relay. I kinda like the idea the pods stay up when flashing, in busy city traffic one flash often doesn't get the message across. 😀 Quote I have made many mistakes in my life. Buying a multiple Lotus is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Escape Posted August 10, 2018 Gold FFM Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just to add, If I were to fit a different relay (either standard or timer) instead of the delay module, I'd rewire the relay socket. Easy enough and avoids the extra wire tangle. I guess one should also add a label to warn of non-standard wiring, but as I'm not planning to sell my Esprit ever, that's of no relevance to me. Quote I have made many mistakes in my life. Buying a multiple Lotus is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hi Alan My pod delay module has given up - I really dont use the flash to pass, is there a way to by pass (jumper cable) so the pods will close and the "flash to pass" function at the stock does not work? Again - thanks for taking the time to figure all of this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon_alan Posted July 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Erikl said: Hi Alan My pod delay module has given up - I really dont use the flash to pass, is there a way to by pass (jumper cable) so the pods will close and the "flash to pass" function at the stock does not work? Again - thanks for taking the time to figure all of this out. Hello @Erikl From the above post, this should do the trick? Hope that helps, let me know. Alan Quote I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Thanks! When I removed the relay with the headlights stuck in the up position - they did not go down. Did not occur to me to wind them down and them remove the relay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Hey So I got the headlights down and removed the module. Turned on headlights and they came up and worked as normal. Turned them off and the pods would not go down? Reinstalled the module and jiggled and thumped and they went down. Any jumper wire solutions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 A new Pektron (Headlamp Flash delay) unit has been engineered for thr TR7 - I am sure it can be made to fit the Esprit: https://robsport.co.uk/index.php/online-shop/product/4487-pektron-unit-headlamp-flash--modern-replacement It's not cheap but it works! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjmuurling Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 How about this one? A Hella Time relay (switch off delay) https://catalog.hella.com/catalog/product/view/id/39420/s/5HE 996 152-131/ Quote Esprit Freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hayden Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Been having this issue myself with a 1994 Esprit S4 down here in Melbourne, Australia. Really random on my car for a few years now. Makes it so I just dont drive it at night which is sort of stupid really. Both headlights come up every time. Hardly ever will both go down, generally the left one stays up, but not always, sometimes both. Left is better as it's less work to get it down manually. I've pulled my gearboxes, perfect. Main big black box on the front of the car where the hood hinges also seems fine. Going tostart looking at that pod delay relay now thanks to these great posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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