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Hi Guys,

I took a bit of time and read through some of the posts for my search of "reliable".  I'm in the process of buying a 2010 Evora with 23k miles. I've had Corvettes, Mustangs (including an '03 Cobra with lots of mods), '99 996 (I'll never buy another one after cracking 2nd gear in half), and many other cars. As of right now I have a Volt and that's being traded on my Evora. You might as well say I've made up my mind already calling it mine. I've always loved the Elise and always wanted an Evora.

My concerns are reliability. I work from home at the moment so I won't be putting a lot of miles on the car. I'm 40 and over the 600 HP car phase so I won't be driving it hard. I won't be going to the track nor drag racing, especially since it's about as slow as my basic modded '93 TransAm was.

What are the gotchas with this car? I saw on Wheeler Dealers where Ed reworked an older Lotus and he mentioned some of the shoddy design from some of the factory parts. What am I getting myself into from a reliability stand point and also maintenance?

 

Thanks!

Daniel

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Not to totally go OT, but I think this is usually a bad clutch position sensor, or it needs adjustment. 

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I think you're referring to an Esprit that they had on Wheeler Dealers. Pretty much the only thing the Esprit and Evora share is the name on the front.

I think we would be lying if we said any car (from any manufacturer) is going to be 100% reliable, however when it comes to the important stuff the Evora is pretty rock solid - the engine is almost identical to the one used in the Camry and therefore it's just as reliable as that car. A lot of the parts used in the car are sourced from Ford or GM, so should be pretty decent. 

23,000 miles is not a lot, there's at least one Evora out there with triple that mileage.

Other S1 owners will be able to comment but regarding running costs they are again very reasonable if you consider what the car is. Generally it's equivalent to or less than servicing a Porsche. Given your cars age if you can find a decent specialist you can probably get a service done in the $300-$400 region.

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The good news is the core mechanicals are very robust. The only time my car has actually left me stranded was when the air-con compressor seized.

On early Evoras, problems with the air conditioning and electric windows are not uncommon. The electric windows are easily resolved with newer replacements, but I've had several air con failures now, and not all for the same reason. Usually when I need it most.

Beyond those things, my car has been very reliable. It's easily the best car I've owned, and running costs are quite reasonable for a car of this type.

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I've had my 2011 S from when it was 6 months old.  I only do 4-5,000 miles a year but include a couple of track days.  Regular servicing has been in line with the published times & prices, which are more than an Elise but less than a Porsche, and nothing has come up during the service beyond the standard service items.

Tyres wear more quickly than you'd expect, at least if you keep to Lotus-recommended makes and compounds, but people have found good alternatives with better wear rates and minimal handling compromises.

I've had two unexpected breakdowns in five years.  First one was the starter motor jammed so the car wouldn't start.  It's a Bosch parted fitted to thousands of cars, so hardly Lotus' fault - they replaced it free of charge despite being outside warranty.  The second time was a dead battery after 4 years and I'd failed to understand the warning signs (odd electrical behaviour) before it went abruptly from cranking OK to completely dead.

My Evora and previous Elise have been about as trouble free as I could have wished for.

You will possibly hear a few stories about gear cables and clutches.  A 2010 car should have had the cables sorted by now.  A small batch of clutches had a production fault and again these should all have been resolved under warranty by now.  Clutch replacement is a big job so you should check for wear and think about whether you've got an emergency fund if it does need doing later.  A very small number have been done at 25-30k miles but there are many cars still going strong with higher mileages so I don't think clutch replacement is more frequent on the Evora than other cars.  It's just a more costly exercise if you have to do it.

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Thanks for the info. I was looking at some YouTube videos last night and they mentioned the Toyota Camry motor; so, that made me feel good. When I had my '99 996 one guy on the Porsche forums was complaining about the cost of an alternator being $1,200. I recall thinking at the time that I had replaced my alternator on my '93 T/A seven times and for a grand total of $87 thanks to a lifetime warranty on the part.  The transmission would have been close to $7,000 to replace, but I ended up finding a company in California that salvaged gears from parts cars and then a transmission shop change it out. On top of that there were all the RMS leaks and troubles those cars had/have. I know Ferrari's have a very important and expensive time chain maintenance. Other cars have those gotchas too. Sounds like the clutch may be this one and that's good to know.

 

Any time you are buying a new car I feel it best to do a little research before you hand the money over. So again, thank you!

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If it makes you feel good the cost of replacing a clutch on an Evora is about the same as doing the timing belt on a Ferrari of a certain age. The difference is that the Evora's clutch only needs replacing when worn, but belts need doing whether you've driven the car or not.

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20 minutes ago, sqldbatx said:

What would the typical charges cost?

For the clutch? or for normal servicing?

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Don't quote me on it (someone else will know) but the figure off the top of my head is £2,000-£2,500. The majority of that is labour.

It might sound high but I've seen bills for BMWs that were much higher.

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There are several threads on here about how few people have ever changed the clutch though. 

 

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Daniel,

I too was concerned about reliability and cost of ownership when I picked up my 11 in March. But my researched uncovered what you're likely finding; the powertrain is solid, and rarely an issue with these cars. Maintenance items are rather average in price, and if you dig deep enough, you can find quite a few OEM parts from the vehicles they were originally designed for (Ford, Jag, Chevy, Toyota, etc) at a much better price than the Lotus-branded ones.

I would think the most expensive items on these cars would be body-related. Even if you had to do the clutch, the parts aren't overly expensive, it's the labor for removing the rear clam and pulling the engine/trans out. If you're mechanically-inclined, it could be done solo or with a friend for a few cases of beer and some pizzas ;)

If you're on Lotus Talk, I know there's a few members on there from the Texas area that are also Evora owners. 

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For the clutch change I don't know the US dealer costs but it is about 30-35 hours labour per the official Lotus servicing book and the parts are a few hundred ££s - there are potentially other things you might do while the clam is off and clutch out.  Back in early 2014 Hoffman's in the UK were offering to do the job for £3000 including VAT as a fixed price for parts & labour & warranty.  Two years later and more experience of clam-off work you might find it a bit cheaper.

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I've been looking into clutch changes recently.. An very well trusted indy i have gone to with my previous car quoted roughly £2600 all parts ordered and fitted to a set date.  Its the labour that annihilates the wallet. I have seen that if you get all the parts yourself over a period, take them in you can probably save about £300 all up.  

I went into ownership with my eyes open to this realistically the only thing i'd need to worry about.  I've got an issue with my cruise control turning off, which is going back into Silverstone for when i can get work to nail down time for me to actually be let off work. 

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I was quoted slightly less than £2k all in from a well respected independent if I recall correctly.

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8 hours ago, Hedgehogfromhell said:

I've got an issue with my cruise control turning off, which is going back into Silverstone for when i can get work to nail down time for me to actually be let off work. 

Not to totally go OT, but I think this is usually a bad clutch position sensor, or it needs adjustment. 

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