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7 hours ago, Iconic Ride said:

Have no idea what the current availability and prices are. Anyone?

The LOTAC Esprit suspension upgrades are available on our very own forum shop, John:

https://www.thelotusforums.com/shop/suspension/473-lotac-suspension.html

£1,800 a pop.

There are also the other Nitron based options:

https://www.thelotusforums.com/shop/88-suspension

I'm curious about those. If Lotus spent a fair amount of money on the LOTAC specs, who developed the Nitron upgrades and how good are they?


I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob)

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17 hours ago, Andyww said:

Another factor is the Esprit has a large scrub radius compared to other cars including the Ferraris. This makes the steering lighter and turn-in faster, and gives more kick-back on uneven roads. I believe its this factor which most makes the steering feel unlike other cars to drive. It shares this feature with go-karts.

Re-reading this, wouldn't it be the other way around? Decreasing the scrub radius would make for a lighter steering. So a larger scrub radius actually makes the steering heavier. Unless I misunderstood what you said.

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The difference is at low speeds. With a larger scrub radius the wheel rolls around the curve traced by the wheel movement on the road when the steering is turned. With a small radius the wheel rotates about a point on the road and the grip of the tyre resists the steering effort.

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2 hours ago, swindon_alan said:

The LOTAC Esprit suspension upgrades are available on our very own forum shop, John:

https://www.thelotusforums.com/shop/suspension/473-lotac-suspension.html

£1,800 a pop.

Yea but look how nice they look...

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Buddsy

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On 2016-09-19 at 21:43, The Pits said:

According to what I have read the V8SE came in at 1380kg. The four cyl Turbo SE came in at 1305kg. I think you might be able to tell the difference if you drove them back to back.

Vanya still has one of each. What's your take on it MrV?

Yes it's "only" 80 kg difference, but the key is in its distribution. You REALLY feel that 918 behind your back. 

I've had the great pleasure of being able to drive an SE, V8, Exige 350 and Evora 400  back to back and I can say, hands down, that my SE has more in common with the Exige in terms of how it feels on the road (and weight-wise) than the V8. 

The 4-pot is more nimble and I'm far more comfortable throwing it around a bend than the V8.

I concur with the others that driver feedback is what makes the Esprit pure magic. Every ride is a revelation - for my part, I love the weight of the steering and feeling the texture of the road through the wheel on the SE, a characteristic that isn't there to any degree in the V8, but they're different cars and I treat them as such. 

I'd love to learn how to drive "properly" (going to look into the Lotus academy next summer) so I can find the limits of the cars on a track - I've driven the SE at absolutely terrifying speeds down widowmaker roads and it's never missed a beat, with brake fade being the only sign that I ought to ease up a little.


Vanya Stanisavljevic '91 Esprit SE | '91 Elan SE | '97 XK8

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Is this a good time to mention the EVO article on Esprits?  :whistle:

Eat yer heart out, Skedgelone.

Ah, on reflection, that may have been somewhat insensitive...


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All that does is make me want to buy a GT3


Vanya Stanisavljevic '91 Esprit SE | '91 Elan SE | '97 XK8

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But not a 350, eh? ;)


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Pah..... No comment


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4 hours ago, Vanya said:

All that does is make me want to buy a GT3

 

4 hours ago, Barrykearley said:

You and me both !!

@OwenGT3 Owen's GT3 made me think about one of those recently. Owens GT3 really looks sleek and a complete one coherent design.

Owen you still considering selling?

 

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5 hours ago, Sparky said:

Is this a good time to mention the EVO article on Esprits?  :whistle:

Eat yer heart out, Skedgelone.

Ah, on reflection, that may have been somewhat insensitive...

I can't believe you even went there :-) I supplied the top two cars in that article, end of.

Trevor.


I'll get around to it at some point.

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:rofl: I'm afraid a fat slaaag of a Bentley handles even worse...... It simply doesn't handle at all - even turning on the drive is clumsy!! I reckon a yank tank would be many many times better !!

Ssshhhh don't mention the hookers......or the coke


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 My 1967 Ford Corsair 2000E would piss on any of your Yank Tanks for bad handling. Alright, it had a few thousand miles on the clock, but with the £10 Russian remould tyres I had fitted, it was astonishingly bad.

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Lotus has an excellent handling (other cars I drive also)

but in extreme situations the Lotus is easier.

It's not like the car does exact what you want,

but from a certain experience on You and your Lotus are doing the same Thing ...

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10 hours ago, Trevsked said:

I can't believe you even went there :-) I supplied the top two cars in that article, end of.

As I recall, it was my name on the winner's V5.  :P


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It’s a pleasure to read all this. I am also very content with the handling and balance of the S1.

 I know that a GT3 would be better. But what you need on the open road.

The general reason is that you have a good feeling when pushing it. And it does.

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1 hour ago, Sparky said:

As I recall, it was my name on the winner's V5.  :P

And if I'm not mistaken mine is still there too :P in fact my name is on both the winners V5's !

 

Trevor.


I'll get around to it at some point.

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My name's on Concorde Delta Golf at Brooklands.  Doesn't mean I flew it.

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