Lotusfab Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yep thats the Monaco car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Lotusfab said: Just happened to be watching For Yours Eyes Only, checking the authenticity of my car when I noticed the copper fire turbo in the lab scene doesnt have ski racks! That would suggest three cars were used. One is now in Doha, one is in Miami and the third car from the lab scene is probably the recently restored one now in monaco, but it didnt have ski racks! You have a short memory @LotusFab @G_Reaper has posted extensively about this, including on this thread, about 3 millions posts ago. The third car was later owned by Mike, after it languished at Lotus Cars. He later sold to a neighbour of mine who used it as part of his business. Then sold on again about 10 years ago. Whilst at Pinewood Studios I believe this car was used for a camera test of the Copper Fire colour, and then used in the Q Branch studio scene whilst the other 2 cars were on location etc. Mike has described to me the little difference he has spotted between the cars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusfab Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Yep thats the car. But there still ws a question mark when trying to prove it. I hadnt noticed the studio car didnt have ski racks which lends support to the fact there were three cars used of which Mikes was the studio car. Its was restored by and now has ski racks and is in Monaco. I believe they were tryingbto sell it and put a video of it on you tube, which therevis a link to on this thread somewhere! Your correct about my memory, I have so much to remember for my job I sometimes forget some of the 4909 posts I have made on here!😄😄😄😄 heres the Monaco car. I leave it to you to judge the resto quality. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Right, so that's the car photographed in the sunshine? I've seen it a few times. This one? From Saltburn (North Yorkshire), to St. Tropez (or thereabouts). He's a bit nearer the Alps if he wants to ski at Vars or Isolo 2000, north of Nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusfab Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Yep, thats it. Im not sure who will getbthe most stick. Him driving around the beaches in southern france with skis or me driving around in the summer in the UK? Well most people will look and that and go wow! I look at it and think of all the work I would have to do! 😄😄😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lotusfab Posted November 20, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Well I know most of you on here are far to polite to criticise my car. I actually dont mind when things are pointed out as it helps make it the best it can be. There are two things that have to be corrected and will be in the future. One is the inside of the louvre area. This has to be sprayed matt black. The other is the front wheels. The lip size is currently 1.5 inch. The original was 1 inch. Thanks to Bauke on here I have the correct lips, professionally polished and ready to go on. I havent got round to it as I have been driving the car and there are things like the shimming and rear springs to do. I also have been facing certain mental barriers, as six years of restoring these is starting to get to me and I hate fiberglassing and sanding. I have been doing a lot of recently! One day it will be perfected! When you hit 5000 posts do you get a badge? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fridge Posted November 20, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just keep going, but at your own pace. It's not a race. It's a difficult job at the best of times, but even more challenging as a home restoration due to a lack of available manpower and space. Let alone ability and having to learn new skills. Often with the stress of only a single chance of getting tasks done correctly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andyww Posted November 20, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 The biggest problem with car restoration is you have to be two people. The engineer who is capable of dismantling, checking, reassembling the mechanics of the car, and doing the electrics and other such tasks, and also a craftsman who does bodywork. Few people are good at both and also few people enjoy doing both. I take my hat off to the people who restore bodywork as I cant stand doing it and therefore not very good at it as I dont have any interest in practising. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyT Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Not to mention the third person who acts as the financier...😉 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Andyww said: The biggest problem with car restoration is you have to be two people. The engineer who is capable of dismantling, checking, reassembling the mechanics of the car, and doing the electrics and other such tasks, and also a craftsman who does bodywork. Few people are good at both and also few people enjoy doing both. I take my hat off to the people who restore bodywork as I cant stand doing it and therefore not very good at it as I dont have any interest in practising. This is what keeps me up at night... I'll have the perfect body painted to perfection but with bags of parts with no idea how to put the damn thing back together - hehe. How good is that colour in the sun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Been there @Rolls and you are right! By January 2017 I was into my restoration at the deepest. With the largest financial outlay, but just a bare chassis, body shell and many, many boxes of bits with quite a high value. Which I couldn't even insure as a car. It is quite daunting, but a great means of focusing the attention on the build. With each successive item completed I would be one step closer to covering my expenditure. Only now, over 3 years later, have I really covered my arse financially on my project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusfab Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Rolls said: This is what keeps me up at night... I'll have the perfect body painted to perfection but with bags of parts with no idea how to put the damn thing back together - hehe. How good is that colour in the sun! Can you please move it all to the uk. I will reassemble your car whilst you make my ski racks!😄😄😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 @Rolls that sounds like a very good deal. Snap it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Fabian, it's rather quiet here on the Restoration threads since your triumphant completion but I've a question regarding the glove box for which you may be the man. Does the glove box attach to the dash panel before that is attached to the scuttle? I'm working through prep of interior pieces before handing over to my trimmer and my trail of breadcrumbs does not conclusively inform on this. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusfab Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hi Steve, I put both of the cardboard gloveboxes in on my two Esprits after the dash was fitted. Its a tight fit but you can get it in. I reinforced the fuse area on my S1 with fiberglass on the outside of the cardboard. It bonded really well and made it much stronger. The fuse boxes are quite a load on the cardboard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Thank you Fabian! So would it have been better to fit the glovebox to the dash before loading the lot onto the scuttle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusfab Posted December 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 You could try that, but the tricky bit is connecting the fuse boxes with a fixed glove box. Also its far easier to bolt the dash on without the glove box in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lotusfab Posted December 5, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 I am still working on the car. Ive had a bit of a break. Now having watched For Your Eyes Only again I have the motivation to finish it! Decals are being made for the 360 Tyrolia bindings. I have to spray them to the correct Orange colour. Then attach them to the skis. I have made two styrofoam racks so far. One is covered in Epoxy ready for sanding. I need to replace the two rear springs with new ones, paint the rear engine bay matt black then secure the louvres. In order to save some time Im going to take the car to a Lotus specialist for suspension alignment. I did this all myself on the S1, but I now need to save some time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusfab Posted December 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Tailgate area now matt black under louvres. Looks much better! Anyone got any ideas on the sealant to use? I'm thinking matt black silicon, and have ordered some. At first I thought dinitrol, buts its difficult to apply and the finish wouldnt be very smooth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusfab Posted December 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 For anyone building an engine my advice is to set up the pump jets with a fuel quantity check prior to fitting the carbs. I didnt to save time and its now down to trial and error! I may take it all apart again unless Im happy woth the adjustment. I found the engine had a stutter on acceleration and had an idea it might be the pump jets. The manual has an excellent description of pump jet operation, very simple really. I read the nut on the bottom of the spring shaft that controls the pump jet arm should be 3 mm up the thread on an old thread. Well thats what I set. I have new pump jet diaphrams and springs? I hadnt had time to check the operation until now. When the throttle is opened the spring should push against the pump jet lever to feed in the stored pump jet fuel to the pump jet. The engine needs this extra fuel when accelerating. In my case the nut was too far down the shaft. This meant when the throttle was opened the spring wasnt pushing against the lever arm and the diaphram wasnt full of fuel, hence not enough acceleration fuel! Seems to be sorted now, but will need tweeking to achieve optimal progression. Right, back tonthe build! I willmsilicon the loures in tomorrow ,and report the result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
910Esprit Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 I found that there were significant inconsistencies between old and new diaphragms and also each rod needed tuning independently to get an equal measure of fuel accoss all chokes - To achieve this I followed the book process of measuring the output at each choke for a given number of strokes. The best you can hope for by measuring threads etc is a datum or reasonable approximation! I used Sikaflex to fit my louvres, which did a great job, but fear they may never come out again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Coleman Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Lotusfab said: For anyone building an engine my advice is to set up the pump jets with a fuel quantity check prior to fitting the carbs. I didnt to save time and its now down to trial and error! I may take it all apart again unless Im happy woth the adjustment. I found the engine had a stutter on acceleration and had an idea it might be the pump jets. The manual has an excellent description of pump jet operation, very simple really. I read the nut on the bottom of the spring shaft that controls the pump jet arm should be 3 mm up the thread on an old thread. Well thats what I set. I have new pump jet diaphrams and springs? I hadnt had time to check the operation until now. When the throttle is opened the spring should push against the pump jet lever to feed in the stored pump jet fuel to the pump jet. The engine needs this extra fuel when accelerating. In my case the nut was too far down the shaft. This meant when the throttle was opened the spring wasnt pushing against the lever arm and the diaphram wasnt full of fuel, hence not enough acceleration fuel! Seems to be sorted now, but will need tweeking to achieve optimal progression. Right, back tonthe build! I willmsilicon the loures in tomorrow ,and report the result. I tried setting mine on the bench and failed miserably. I just ended up setting them to what everybody else has which may have something to do with my low rev stumble... Quote Lotus Esprit [meaning] a 1:1 scale Airfix kit with a propensity to catch fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
910Esprit Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Paul Coleman said: I tried setting mine on the bench and failed miserably How come? - I just set up simple jig that held the carb at about 5 degrees down at the intake side (so any drops as well as the pump jet spray could be captured) , I then ran an extended fuel pipe from the engine bay to keep the carb being tested at the correct presure, then captured the output in a clean jar. Then used a syringe to measure the output after I'd done the 20 strokes. It was a bit of a faff, but not technically complex and no special tools required. It was a useful exercize as it demonstrated that there was not a 'standard' setting and results varied between old & new diaphragms. Edited December 7, 2019 by 910Esprit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paul Coleman Posted December 7, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, 910Esprit said: How come? - I just set up simple jig that held the carb at about 5 degrees down at the intake side (so any drops as well as the pump jet spray could be captured) , I then ran an extended fuel pipe from the engine bay to keep the carb being tested at the correct presure, then captured the output in a clean jar. Then used a syringe to measure the output after I'd done the 20 strokes. It was a bit of a faff, but not technically complex and no special tools required. It was a useful exercize as it demonstrated that there was not a 'standard' setting and results varied between old & new diaphragms. I just had the fuel gravity fed maybe that's not correct? I can't really remember why it didn't seem to work but I think that no matter how I adjusted my nuts I couldn't get the required amount of fluid in the jar, after the given number of pumps Or am I getting confused with the fertility clinic tests? Edited December 7, 2019 by Paul Coleman 2 2 Quote Lotus Esprit [meaning] a 1:1 scale Airfix kit with a propensity to catch fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTUSMAN33 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 I still have the rig I made for setting the pumps in my loft if you want to borrow it Fabian? Works really well and accurate. 1 Quote Do or do not, there is no try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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