RS4ever 34 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Another proof that dark colors fit the Exige: "sport & chic" as we use to say here. What a car! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,410 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Thanks for the update SFO. It's hard to keep up with Lotus's pricing! If the £1250 hard top is now standard then I guess that's a better deal for £600 extra. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
French Frie 401 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 ... but it should mean that you do not get the soft top anymore ! so all in all ... 25 minutes ago, RS4ever said: Another proof that dark colors fit the Exige: "sport & chic" as we use to say here. What a car! ... Sienna Brown being the coolest of the Sport & Chic colors (followed by military Grey and Carbon Grey) ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 447 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 What is the weight saving of the carbon roof versus the standard hard top? Anyone got any figures? Same for the carbon front access panel. Thanks. Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
nerobi 219 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 (380's standart roof means soft top) Quote the carbon roof is 2 kg (4.4 pounds) heavier than the standard roof Quote Lotus hasn’t specified the weight difference between the coupe and roadster models, but it should be noted that the 350 droptop is actually 10 kg (22 pounds) lighter than a similarly equipped hard top. which means the carbon roof is probably 8 kg lighter than the standart hard top. http://www.topspeed.com/cars/lotus/2017-lotus-exige-sport-380-ar175263.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 447 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 My gut feeling is your figures are totally wrong. Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,410 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Carbon roof is 2kg heavier than the soft top according to Lotus's press release: "The optional Carbon Exterior Pack contains a one-piece carbon roof panel and a distinctive carbon louvered tailgate. The carbon roof panel is 2 kg heavier than the standard soft-top but this weight increase is offset by the carbon louvered tailgate which saves 2 kg." http://www.lotuscars.com/news/engineering/lotus-exige-sport-380-supercar-killer I have seen claims of 12kg for the standard hard top but having fitted the hard top many times on my Elise would guess it's nearer 20kg. The soft top must be well under 10kg, there really isn't much to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alias23 1,519 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 According to Komotec, based on their carbon hard top... Weight: 5,3 kg, weight original part: 11 kg. So circa 5.5kg saving. Quote www.alias23.com Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 447 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 10 hours ago, The Pits said: Carbon roof is 2kg heavier than the soft top according to Lotus's press release: "The optional Carbon Exterior Pack contains a one-piece carbon roof panel and a distinctive carbon louvered tailgate. The carbon roof panel is 2 kg heavier than the standard soft-top but this weight increase is offset by the carbon louvered tailgate which saves 2 kg." http://www.lotuscars.com/news/engineering/lotus-exige-sport-380-supercar-killer I have seen claims of 12kg for the standard hard top but having fitted the hard top many times on my Elise would guess it's nearer 20kg. The soft top must be well under 10kg, there really isn't much to it. All too much guess work here from figures that have not been backed up, until i see the two on the scales I am inclined to think the saving is somewhat lower 19 minutes ago, alias23 said: According to Komotec, based on their carbon hard top... Weight: 5,3 kg, weight original part: 11 kg. So circa 5.5kg saving. Sounds more realistic, but is the Komotec one lighter than the 380 one? Less sound insulation etc? Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,410 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Evora Sport 410 carbon roof only saves a surprisingly modest 2kg and is a larger panel than the Elise so 5.5kg weight saving doesn't sound realistic in light of that. Standard Elise hardtop feels much heavier than 11kg to me. Quite a few variables here, paint, lining, seals, fixing parts and so on. It's really not a huge issue to me either way so I'm not going to bother getting stuff weighed, it was enough of a bother trawling through various claims online from people who had weighed them to try and find which way the numbers were pointing. Certainly a better effort than just going on my 'gut feel' I would have thought but over to you from here on in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 447 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Yes, I had an internet search myself, seems there is nothing definitive out there. I would be interested in getting one so i could weigh them myself, but it is expensive. Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
mickv 17 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I have the carbon hardtop and hatch cover on order for my new 380 (collected last Friday - must get round to posting some pics!). Personally, I don't care too much about the weight saving, if any. I would have thought that, if they were being honest, most buyers would be more driven by looks than mass. The matte black hardtop looks a bit out of sorts with the carbon front cover, to my eye at least. And whilst the matte black meshed surround on the hatch cover will remain, I think the carbon hardtop and louvred section of hatch should make everything look more coherent. Or at least it had better do, given the price of the bits! Have to say I'm finding the running-in process quite frustrating, but the car feels strong even on light throttle openings and up to 4,000rpm. Can't wait to see what it's like on WOT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, mickv said: I have the carbon hardtop and hatch cover on order for my new 380 (collected last Friday - must get round to posting some pics!). Personally, I don't care too much about the weight saving, if any. I would have thought that, if they were being honest, most buyers would be more driven by looks than mass. You are a BAD guy I have asked price for it too, most stupid decision ever not to do. 1 hour ago, mickv said: Have to say I'm finding the running-in process quite frustrating, but the car feels strong even on light throttle openings and up to 4,000rpm. Can't wait to see what it's like on WOT I am running in at 3500 max the first 500km next 5000 up to 4500 BUT I have another feeling. The car really feels slow on throttle, much slower as my Komotec before. I am a little disappointed, but ok it will know more during the weekend. I have a evening trip with my daughter in the Belgian Ardens tomorrow and afterwards have the 1000km, on Friday I go to the dealer to change oil and go full pull after it. Titanium Exhaust: I don't hear a lot of noise at 3500rpm at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFO 194 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jokke Vlo said: Titanium Exhaust: I don't hear a lot of noise at 3500rpm at all. does pressing Sport or Race increase the noise? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, SFO said: does pressing Sport or Race increase the noise? I only can do at 500km, that is tomorrow (now at 493, no joke) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NW76 499 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Jokke: remind me - you had the EX430 or the EX390?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alias23 1,519 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, mickv said: The matte black hardtop looks a bit out of sorts with the carbon front cover, to my eye at least. And whilst the matte black meshed surround on the hatch cover will remain, I think the carbon hardtop and louvred section of hatch should make everything look more coherent. So when the new carbon rear hatch arrives, is it a complete new rear hatch? Or just the carbon louvres and dealer refits this to the original hatch? Therefore the plastic louvres become a spare? Quote www.alias23.com Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, NW76 said: Jokke: remind me - you had the EX430 or the EX390?!? 430 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NW76 499 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Jokke: not surprised then... you can always do the 430 or 460 kit on your 380 if it feels not fast enough on throttle... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JG220 273 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 The delanney car looks alright. It could have been a lot worse. not keen on the gold myself but can see the apeal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arun_D 741 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Hope it somehow converts into a few sales for the company. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFO 194 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Love the red and gold combination - striking but not shouty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NW76 499 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Looks good ... hope this will make Lotus interesting again for the younger audience, just like the Elise MK1 was to me, 20 years ago ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mickv 17 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Jokke Vlo said: I only can do at 500km, that is tomorrow (now at 493, no joke) Interesting - I was not advised against using sport when running in and there is no such advice in the manual (I read it!). Does the titanium exhaust have a valve? Mine has standard exhaust and it sounds good in sport even up to 4,000 rpm. As to pace Jokke - it might just reflect what you were used to with your komotec equipped car. Bear in mind I drive xc90 most of the time! 6 hours ago, alias23 said: So when the new carbon rear hatch arrives, is it a complete new rear hatch? Or just the carbon louvres and dealer refits this to the original hatch? Therefore the plastic louvres become a spare? Yes - unfortunately it's just the louvres. The mesh style matte black surround remains. So my matte black louvres will be going up for sale - and your interest is noted! Think we've touched on this elsewhere a few weeks ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M4rk 160 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I agree, Seb's 380 looks good. Nice reference to historic colours too! As an aside, I can't help feeling that Lotus missed out on some better product placement/marketing material in the background of the footage knowing how many views it is likely to get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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