Gold FFM C8RKH 5,807 Posted August 22, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Warranty or not, if the component failed prematurely or was not of reasonable quality they should repair or replace. There woukd be a strong argument under UK consumer law through sales of goods act, cannot believe the protection would be less in the EU. Pity poor show for Lotus / Janspeed to walk away or, have I missed something? 2 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Mark030358 586 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Jokke, wonder if that's why your diffuser melted with escaping hot gas, IIRC it was the same side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yes indeed ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 442 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 And would a blowing exhaust cause a drop in power at the top end? Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
vd9 149 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'd rather believe in the exhaust being faulty and overly restrictive, this can definitely lead to a less flow at the high revs (less power) with higher temperature, which will in turn reduce power even further. Then the product of pressure and rising temperature is a hole in the exhaust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rs200evo 34 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Worth reading this thread on Pistonheads which shows the difference of the 2.5" restrictive pipe on the 350, versus down to 1.875" on the 380.... Also the comments on the very poor welding quality exhibited https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1665749&r=35572340&hm=27032&mid=27032#35572340 Is the no warranty coverage from an official response? How would that even be questioned on a new car? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark030358 586 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 @re200evo... now you've gone and done it... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gashead1105 298 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Red rag to the 2bular bull!! But very poor show from Lotus on the warranty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Sorry guys I did not ask warranty as it would take too long and the response is unsure. So We never will know it is. I guess yes as the mistake is clear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
550superfast 442 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 53 minutes ago, Jokke Vlo said: Sorry guys I did not ask warranty as it would take too long and the response is unsure. So We never will know it is. I guess yes as the mistake is clear You have lost me. I'm out. Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/400superamerica Link to post Share on other sites
alias23 1,512 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Jokke Vlo said: Sorry guys I did not ask warranty as it would take too long and the response is unsure. So We never will know it is. I guess yes as the mistake is clear That is an odd thing to say ... given the cost of the Ti exhaust surely you'd want some answers, replacement, or refund at least? Quote www.alias23.com Link to post Share on other sites
mickv 17 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I assume Jokke means he doesn't want it to hold up his KT build? Going for an aftermarket exhaust? For some contrasting dyno evidence.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,406 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 @Jokke Vlo I would definitely get another Ti back box out of Lotus in any event, must be an easy €3000 or more to sell on afterwards, even if you don't plan to use it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yes but I will not do it know, it would take to long to stay with the kar at KT. I have send pictures to my dealer and wait what he will say. But meanwhile work at KT has to be continued. That's what I mean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 OMG my English writing yesterday even worse as in the past SORRY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seriouslylotus 439 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 44 minutes ago, Jokke Vlo said: OMG my English writing yesterday even worse as in the past SORRY Better than my German!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 5,807 Posted August 23, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Jokke Vlo said: OMG my English writing yesterday even worse as in the past SORRY I ONLY speak English (cos the rest of the world does too! ) and I found nothing wrong with your posts. I understood them fully. Keep them coming and keep sharing your opinions. I might not agree with them all, but I value the insights and observations you contribute. Just please rememember not to use Z's where S's are appropiate. That a muffler is something usually made of fur that women use to keep their hands warm. A hood is something you find on a coat. A trunk is a large storage box usually full of clothes or memorabilia in a garage or Attic. Football is a game of two halves that involves actually using your foot to control a round ball. Baseball is just rounders with a fascination for statistics. And a Sudan (sic) is a country in Africa. The language of our American cousins is merely a bastardised poor excuse of the original. 1 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Mark030358 586 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Jokke Vlo said: OMG my English writing yesterday even worse as in the past SOR Jokke, keep the information coming re the 460 upgrade.... great posts for me. cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 KT has decided to stop conversion and resolve the exhaust first. I am indeed affraid it will occur again. So now it is waiting untill this problem is resolved. Lotus is positive on resolve the problem, but it seems it will take time to find the right parts. Other remarkable thing: the rear sub frame of a 380 is seriously different from a 350 (stronger). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MartynB 244 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I had assumed KT would be fitting their own exhaust system for a EX460 setup. Surely that wouldn't be able to fail in the same way. Maybe I'm missing something? Any details on what is different about the subframe? Sounds intriguing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
French Frie 401 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 as far as I know, back box is not included in any KT kit (neither Y pipe, BTW) , even if manifolds and sport cat are ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hangar 111 296 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, French Frie said: as far as I know, back box is not included in any KT kit (neither Y pipe, BTW) , even if manifolds and sport cat are ... Correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IcemanTM 16 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 So the average values from all dyno tests are? V6= 350= 380= Would be nice to see also the chargecooled evoras (or 3.11) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rs200evo 34 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Where does the titanium start on the titanium exhaust option? Is it from the cats back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jokke Vlo 281 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) The exhaust of a 380 is specific, so we have to wait spare parts, a 350 exhaust is not fitting ..... Edited August 24, 2017 by Jokke Vlo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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