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On 19/02/2020 at 04:47, G_Reaper said:

Thanks for the info.

 

Where can I find the Essex list? I want to find out about Essex No 27?

Cheers Mike

Hi Mike, 

Good to have you back, your Bond car info provided a lot of satisfaction for all of us.

I have attached the top half of the database which covers all the pre-production cars along with Essex and the handful of non Essex cars produced in 1980.

Luckily we have most/all of the chassis numbers accounted for up until this time.. hopefully this helps.

I have also added in some of the pre-production and Essex notes.

 

0857 was the last S2

0861 was the first S2.2

Let me know guys if I should include these 2 x cars as reference points.

 

0940 is the only one missing from below.. I guess this could be an S2.2 though as they shared the serial numbers?

 

Lex.

 

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On ‎15‎/‎02‎/‎2020 at 19:33, LOTUSMAN33 said:

MPW80V was 10790 Mike

are you sure it wasn't 10890? 790 would have been a pre vin chassis number and therefore not prefixed with a 1. This should also make it a late S2 not even a S2.2

On ‎15‎/‎02‎/‎2020 at 15:01, G_Reaper said:

Hi Guys 

Its been a while since I was last on here and I cannot seem to log in?? G_Reaper

Anyway just a couple of things to think about.

Does anyone know anything about Essex 027? 

I noticed on Stuart Monument's posts he states the black active suspension car was the first Essex pre-production prototype? Surely the first Essex pre-production car was the bond car 10858 (Essex No1) REG NCL458V. I was taken to understand the first 3 including my ex car MPW71V 10860 were the first 3 and utilised chassis numbers that fell between the end of the S2 production and the start of S2.2 production.

The distinction over the years as not counting the pre-production cars as as part of the Essex cars seems to have been now blurred by the fact 10858 was clearly photographed wearing the Essex wreath with No1 in it while doing its prototype work.

All very interesting.

Cheers Mike

From what I've read and heard from various sources including Andy Graham Lotus referred to D10858, D10859 + D10860 as development cars and D10895, D10896, D10897 + D10898 as Pre production.

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there is one real essex (RHD) sold to the Netherlands, years ago (i think about 20 or maby 25 years ago)

the guy i know bought it from this guy who bought it in the UK.

the new owner wanted to do a complete restauration, so he get the car total in parts, (body off and engine out and chassis and suspension, just complete rebuild)

then this parts where at his friend a lotus specialist, but they where there for years, this lotus specialist past away, so the company was sold,

the new owner of the company, sold all the parts to Lotus Bits, its a very sad story, but i really dont know the chassis number and this friend of mine also dont know it anymore,

maby somebody knows the lotus bits guy;s and can ask them, then this story also has a name.. (or better saying a chassis number) of witch Essex there is gone,....

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On 29/01/2020 at 17:59, Bazza 907 said:

Somebody on here bought it. Can't remember who though. Kevin Wheeler?

Not me. Mine is Ice Blue. Bought it from Rochdale.

Sorry. I have now read further down and see you have identified it. Mine is not a dry sump.

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On 21/02/2020 at 22:54, Lex Templar said:

@LJR it’s well documented as 790.

in early Essex registry’s it’s not documented as 2.2L Turbo. Perhaps this first prototype chassis was in fact from as S2. See notes for 790 on the list above

 

The Essex pre-production and development cars all look correct on the list as per your notes Lucas

But shouldn't it be something like 79080790G rather than 10790? MPW 81V was 79110854G. Unless it was car built in November 10790 suggests its a 17 digit VIN car which doesn't make sense

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Someone just posted this pic of an Essex in London in the early 80s on a Facebook page - it’s on a V plate and doesn’t seem to tally with previous Essex/number plate lists (although I might be wrong on that!) 

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4 minutes ago, JNW3 said:

Someone just posted this pic of an Essex in London in the early 80s on a Facebook page - it’s on a V plate and doesn’t seem to tally with previous Essex/number plate lists (although I might be wrong on that!) 

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This is #0896 Pre-Production Essex car, not numbered, featured on Front cover of Road & Track magazine January, 1981.

 

@JNW3 Here;s another angle

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13 hours ago, LJR said:

But shouldn't it be something like 79080790G rather than 10790? MPW 81V was 79110854G. Unless it was car built in November 10790 suggests its a 17 digit VIN car which doesn't make sense

You may have a point Lucas. Below doc is from the early 90's.. I'll change it to 0790 in any case in the database. 

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25 minutes ago, LOTUSMAN33 said:

Nice, very nice. It has a twin support Bootlid grille though which is odd being an early car.

Dave :) 

you have good eyes! i dont saw it yet!

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3 hours ago, LOTUSMAN33 said:

Nice, very nice. It has a twin support Bootlid grille though which is odd being an early car.

Dave :) 

Dave it’s a late 81 car, possibly ‘82 so not super early. I reckon the twin support cake in mid - late 81 but would be good to know the approx change over date.

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14 hours ago, LOTUSMAN33 said:

Nice, very nice. It has a twin support Bootlid grille though which is odd being an early car.

Dave :) 

My late dry sump has twin supports and 5 stud hubs

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Yes Phil, yours is the car before on the register, I suspect this car may have been converted in 4 Stud to give the FYEO look but could be wrong as who knows how they left the factory back then but earliest car with BBS is 0338 which is 12 cars before this one.

Does anyone know if it has a roof radio?

Dave :) 

Do or do not, there is no try! 

 

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2 hours ago, LOTUSMAN33 said:

Yes Phil, yours is the car before on the register, I suspect this car may have been converted in 4 Stud to give the FYEO look but could be wrong as who knows how they left the factory back then but earliest car with BBS is 0338 which is 12 cars before this one.

Does anyone know if it has a roof radio?

Dave :) 

Yes it does Dave

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Dave, the same owner has #0335 which is down in the register as a Jim Loose car.

The owner says there is zero evidence of it being in the USA or of it ever being blue, there are documents from the car in the 90's when it was painted black from the original Copper Fire.

There is evidence of copper fire paint in the arches.

I have changed this accordingly on the database...

It leaves 2 Jim Loose cars, which I think is correct, 0336 + 0337.

The owner of one of them is on the facebook Esprit owners group so I'll see if I can confirm his s/n and the other one.

Lex.

 

 

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Brilliant thanks Lex, I try to update it as I read the posts but like when I was running it you get quite a few PM’s.

I have started the Launch Edition Evora register and the same applies with the detailed updates coming by message.

Dave :) 👍🏻

Do or do not, there is no try! 

 

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