Barrykearley 6,970 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 And crack on with a car for us peasants please 👍 Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
Stubox 564 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Well that sounds like my order is going to be delayed, so disappointing, I might have to cancel it . Quote Black n gold Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,399 Posted September 2, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Please cancel your order @Stubox as that means they'll build mine faster....! 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,970 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 You’ll be screwed anyway @C8RKH when queen Nicola bans english imports Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,399 Posted September 2, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 She doesn't want to be Queen. It's El Presidente don't you know! Anyway, latest reports up here are that she is finished. Also the truth is coming out re how "good" she was at managing COVID given the explosion in cases in Aberdeen, Perthshire, and now Glasgow....... It was just smoke and mirrors again.... 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 849 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 WTF happened? The program should be in very late stage of development right now. Why are they stirring shit now, they do not need bad press, a mutually agreeable parting of ways would have better than the shitshow that is about to take place in social media. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,399 Posted September 2, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 This is so disappointing to hear as it wreaks of how Lotus garnered a bad reputation in the past through unpaid invoices, not honouring contracts etc... If it wants to move upmarket then it needs to also behave in an upmarket way. However, I do hope that this the usual crap around half a story and the true story will emerge where Lotus has done the right thing and someone reporting it has got the wrong end of the stick or indeed even Williams (given their recent ownership change) have miss understood. Hopefully the picture will become clear and Lotus will be in the clear. Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 849 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 WAE is not wholly owned by Williams family but by an equity firm, Williams only retained a minority share of the company. WAE is dealing with a bunch of OEMs including some of the most highest profile... That does not look good when Lotus has not yet managed to get the full allocation of cars sold and just announced further delay, which is fair in the view of Covid, but still, this is bad news, of the kind the prospective customers will steer clear of the brand and the media will cover at length. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,970 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Yeah just like tesla - all their ongoing delays really damaged their brand 🤔 Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,399 Posted September 2, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Oh, and Aston Martin with the Valkyrie! Mercedes with the AMG one. Ferrari and the SF90 Stradale. And Bugatti with it's new car below the Chiron. So many doom mongers everywhere. Me, every time I see the Evija I see some else marvellous in the design/tech/engineering... Wow. In fact, Lotus are in excellent company and this should bode very well for them... 2 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 849 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 And yet it is funny how much Lotus does not get away with any of it... as opposed to all the brands named above. Yet I agree Lotus is in excellent company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason is Chasing 100 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I know almost nothing about Lotus other than what they produce, and my own personal fascination with their commitment to bringing a driving experience that is unparalleled. For me, a Driver, that's absolutely enough, I don't need to know more; so much so I'm willing to wait for my local Dealer to be in receipt of another Evora, which I'm not sure I'd be willing to say for any other Brand. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty435 1,115 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 Geely not to be underestimated when it comes to investment in racing.https://www.fiawtcr.com/race-report-ehrlacher-girolami-win-as-wtcr-is-all-set-for-a-goodyear-following-2020-kick-off/ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason is Chasing 100 Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Race on Sunday, Sell on Monday. It's good to see this remains part of the Mantra for Manufacturers. I believe there to be an inherent truth in making those feel a part of what's occurring on the track, and how one creates loyal, and fervent constituents. I can't speak to autos, but on a moto, this is still a real truth; those boys and girls play for the love, and there's no money in it for the rider, but the Sponsors still adhere to this, and while they all want a front runner, they'd prefer to take on the representative who will bring awareness to them in the pits. Which is why you'll often see mid pack guys with more Sponsors then frontrunners. Go GEELY! Bring us back to the world of human socialization! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neal H 897 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Marketing, Marketing, Marketing. I would have loved to see the Evija in the flesh and believe I must be on the customer database of at least two official Lotus dealers (as well as Lotus themselves), yet despite having purchased three brand new Lotus in the past six years (Exige V6, Evora 400, Elise 250 Cup) I’ve never received an invite. Now clearly I’m not a potential Evija customer, but it would have been a great way to get me back into one of their showrooms to ogle the more affordable cars they can actually sell. I wonder if I’ll hear anything from anyone when (if) they do come up with a new car? Kinda tells me all I need to know about Lotus and their dealers marketing efforts. Now Jeep on the other hand (I bought one new in 2016) regularly contact me trying to tempt me into something new. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,399 Posted September 19, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 That's disappointing Neal. I bought my first Evora from Murrays, my second from Silverstone. I got an invite from Silverstone for the Evija event, and they contact m about other things. I appreciate them keeping in touch even though I live 500 miles away. Don't think I ever received anything from Murrays. I guess it is very much dealer preference. Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
tim_marra 478 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 I only found out about the Parks viewing after calling in recently. Mate and me put our names on the list and saw (and sat in!!) the Evija yesterday 18th Sept. The car is incredible inside and out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hedgerley 449 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just back from Parks. Had an invite about a week ago from Laura, ex-Leven. I used to get stuff from Murray, both Lotus and Aston Martin and Leven kept in touch. Don't know why some folk are kept in the dark. Evija is awesome. Pity I forgot my cheque book 😉 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 6,970 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 https://www.polestar.com/uk/electric-driving/ nice to see some progress at Volvo. Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
au-yt 487 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 On 19/09/2020 at 21:56, Neal H said: Marketing, Marketing, Marketing. I would have loved to see the Evija in the flesh and believe I must be on the customer database of at least two official Lotus dealers (as well as Lotus themselves), yet despite having purchased three brand new Lotus in the past six years (Exige V6, Evora 400, Elise 250 Cup) I’ve never received an invite. Now clearly I’m not a potential Evija customer, but it would have been a great way to get me back into one of their showrooms to ogle the more affordable cars they can actually sell. I wonder if I’ll hear anything from anyone when (if) they do come up with a new car? Kinda tells me all I need to know about Lotus and their dealers marketing efforts. Now Jeep on the other hand (I bought one new in 2016) regularly contact me trying to tempt me into something new. You are not eligible under Ferrari terms, as you didn't buy them in one year, I learnt this from a friend who wanted to buy a F12 TDF even though he owned 5 including a 250 Lusso. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM jep 954 Posted September 21, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 @Neal H sad to read this as buyers such as yourself are the true backbone to keep Lotus upright. Come to think of it, I have not heard from Bell and Colvill re Evija. I have not bought a new Lotus since 2000 but bought second-hand Evora in 2018 and use their servicing department regularly. Perhaps I missed that email and I don't tend to go to 'views' of new cars - and B&C know I won't buy one, so I would just be eyeballs. So rightly they probably reserved spots for those who have paid for new fibreglass. It is disappointing that a buyer of 3 new Lotus is not treated like royalty by both dealers and Lotus HQ. Perhaps @Bibs can whisper to someone. Justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM C8RKH 6,399 Posted September 21, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 @jep I think many who have been invited to see the Evija are certainly NOT in a position to splash £2m on a car. The showcasing of the car is I believe for two reasons, (1) to give current Lotus owners and opportunity to see the car and (2) to stir interest in the couple of "prospective owners" around each dealership that shows it. Given only a 130 are being made and sold globally, the touring of the car around dealers isn't go to have prospective owners lined up outside of the dealership, all COVID safe 2m apart. So, given the first point, I assume Lotus Marketing/Dealers are missing a trick? Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Popular Post jep 954 Posted September 21, 2020 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Understood. Lotus HQ sell the car direct, the dealers do not take orders. So Evija is purely marketing from the dealer network point of view. I just did not wish to sound 'entitled' to a viewing and I am more than happy for any dealer to choose who to invite. To me, that should include any customer who has bought a new Lotus in the past 15 years. And if you have bought 3..........they should send a top of the range Volvo/Polestar to chauffeur you and your family to the dealership. This stuff works; I appreciate Ferrari et al have more muscle but however immune we think we all are to 'marketing', the meet/greet, wine/dine, HQ tours etc... really do work when building loyalty to a car marque. Read John Egan's book about Jaguar in the early '80s......he credits the dealers with (in no small part) saving Jaguar. The more I think about it, the more silly it seems that a buyer of 3 new Lotus has not been swamped with invites to see Evija. What else is Evija for, if not to makes us glow about Lotus? Justin 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LotusLeftLotusRight 1,317 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Lotus dealers can take Evija orders. I was told that they would receive a Finder’s Fee and liaise with the factory. So it is in their interest to promote the vehicle as a potential sale. The easiest database they have is their customer list. Who knows, one of us might be a billionaire or at least mix in those circles? To be honest it would be a bit weird if they didn’t show it at their main dealers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM jep 954 Posted September 21, 2020 Gold FFM Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 That is contrary to what I was told by B&C, who said they were not involved with orders for the Evija. That was earlier this year and of course, things change. What you say makes perfect sense. Justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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