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Lotus staff got free hot drinks vending machines back in August, was a very welcome move and much appreciated from the people who work there. Sometimes the little things can make a big difference 👍

Having spoken to a few of the long time Lotus guys still at Hethal i can confirm my LOVE for Lotus is back on the straight and narrow, Jaguars/McLarens are not for me!  I just need to have more p

Selling 6 cars instead of 5 in China would be a 20% increase. There really is nothing to celebrate at this moment in time beyond Lotus's survival but hopefully it will start to make some kind of sense

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@RobinB5 With regard to autonomous driving and speed limits. My satnav has and indicator for what the speed limit is on the stretch of road that I am driving. Sadly it is a couple of years old so for some roads that indicator is out of date and telling me the wrong speed. And, that is not taking into account any short term changes to the speed limit due to road works and the likes.

Systems would need to be developed and put into practice on all roads to take things like this into consideration.

If the system is faulty and your autonomous vehicle breaks a speed limit, who is to blame? Who pays the fine? What if it causes an accident?

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5 hours ago, mg4lotus said:

My satnav has and indicator for what the speed limit is on the stretch of road that I am driving

Mine and my wife's DDs have that but also the front cameras recognise road signs so it "reads" the speed limit sign and informs you of changes accordingly.

The tech is there. Is available. Right now.

The law needs to be changed to catch-up but that is happening. Cameras on cars will determine blame and if a systems failure then the mfrs could be held liable as they are to an extent now.

If you modify the car without telling insurance co, and it's a factor, then like now you will be liable.

It's all coming together whether we like it or not.

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Forward looking cameras and OTA updates will solve that. Also machine to machine communications will be needed.

Automated driving is a long way off. Everything currently on the road, including experimental are fancy cruise control systems. Driver and occupant monitoring are going to be the big tech explosion in the next 3-5 years.

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But that is already there too @TdM. My wife's car and others monitor the drivers inputs and also eye movements. They can detect when you are not concentrating/distracted and also when you are tired and need a break.  I regularly shoot down to see my mother, just under 300 miles one way. Often, I do the journey in one hit and all good, though sometimes, on some journeys the car dash will light up and I'll get a message that I should take a break, and to be fair, it usually does happen when I am feeling tired.

You don't need OTA updates for speed, in fact, the forward facing cameras on most cars these days will "read" the signs for speed so they will be more accurate at picking up temporary speed limit changes than OTA - for instance when the motorway goes down to 50 in roadworks.

As I said in my earlier post, the tech is actually all there.  Autonomous is just bringing it together and driving improvements/enhancements. However, you will not get autonomous UNTIL the law catches up and public ACCEPTANCE has been achieved. Until then, as now with the Tesla systems etc, the "driver" whether actually driving or not will be held accountable if the vehicle (itself through mechanical failure or autonomous systems failure) or driver (through actions or inaction) causes an accident.

A lot of people can't wait for this. Me. It sounds like hell. But I guess it is progress.

 

 

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Yes camera based DMS is 'here' but still quite rare. Most are still torque based like Tesla and therefore unreliable. The newest ones are just coming to cars now. The newest developments are integration of eye tracking and DMS into the entertainment system. We will see a lot of this in the next few years (especially as ncap are now all over it).

 

Anyway, autonomous doesn't work. Hence why DMS is needed. Collaborative driving is coming soon though and it's a good idea. The industry has finally woken up to this reality after a few years of blind autonomous investment.

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On 11/10/2020 at 23:40, C8RKH said:

Yes. For some very happy days. For others, not so happy.

For the last 5 -7 years we've been slowly decluttering. Getting rid of all that useless shite you accumulate and realise was just a waste of money.

I do wonder what the future for Lotus will be.  A car for the drivers as electric autonomous looms on the distant horizon. So essentially a car for a dying market - quite literally if you look at all of the old farts on here!

A focus on driving involvement, handling and vehicle dynamics for drivers who just want a badge and 0-60 straight line bragging rights.

I think 2025-2030 will be the key period for the future Lotus to be shaped and at that point we'll have a clear idea about what future Lotus stands for.

 

Honestly it sounds like more than the Future of Lotus, but the Future of the Driver, the more I read this thread (I'll be 50, by the time I begin to see the changes proposed) the more I hope theres a renaissance of track rats that will keep my beloved hobby alive

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13 minutes ago, Bibs said:

That’s really good to see, genuine investment in the manufacturing facility with an uplift in available volumes.

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Geely obviously believes in the brand, big investment Lotus as not seen in decades,the future looks bright. Can not wait to see what comes out of this facility in the next few years.

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23 minutes ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

Surprise, surprise: it was cold and raining when the press came to visit!

Apart from that, it looks like it’s going to be a really nice place to work. Very impressive.

It’ll be good to see the fruits of the investment with a factory packed full of workers and cars rolling off the lines. A welcome relief to fans of the brand and dealerships!

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23 minutes ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

Surprise, surprise: it was cold and raining when the press came to visit!

Apart from that, it looks like it’s going to be a really nice place to work. Very impressive.

It’ll be good to see the fruits of the investment with a factory packed full of workers and cars rolling off the lines. A welcome relief to fans of the brand and dealerships!

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Looks absolutely fantastic. But if they build 3 times the cars - they need to sell them. I’m really looking forward to seeing the building of brand awareness next 👍

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So I guess it will only have one or maybe two motors of the Evija instead of all four lol. Just kidding Lynk and Co (the Zero is rated at 530 bhp) and Polestar ( #2 has over 400bhp) already have access to engines able to produce mostly irrelevant amount of hp.

Actually with electric power, I don't thing speaking in hp makes any sense... The smallest electric motor is able to produce senseless amount of hp these days. Lets not even talk about torque because it makes things even more irrelevant.

However ease of use ( charging speed, range or autonomy, ability to handle cold weather, ease of  service and repair...) should be keynotes in every blurb the communicate around, but as we are talking about Lotus a sports car company I guess speaking of HP kind of make sense except for the fact that Lotus has never really been about the HP...

So Lotus finally came out about the SUV, I guess the leaks coming from China were getting a bit out of control, that pesky google translate is working a little too well and the Great Chinese firewall is not as strong as it used to be I guess.

Now 750 bhp or whatever the real number will be put that SUV in the face of the big hitters i'm guessing that thing will not be priced as low as a Maccan...  I'm guessing at least a kidney and most of my liver won't be enough...

By the way remember test mule 31 testing in Hethel earlier this year, well test mule 32 has been caught in China recently

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