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3 hours ago, The Pits said:

And the relevance of this to the future of Lotus is....?

The relevance is in whether you follow the herd or do what you believe is right. Hmm. What would Colin have done?  Me thinks he would have found his own, different path....

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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Selling 6 cars instead of 5 in China would be a 20% increase. There really is nothing to celebrate at this moment in time beyond Lotus's survival but hopefully it will start to make some kind of sense

Lotus staff got free hot drinks vending machines back in August, was a very welcome move and much appreciated from the people who work there. Sometimes the little things can make a big difference 👍

Maybe, time will tell. I am starting to think that I am out of kilter with the majority (nothing new there I suppose) but all this talk of electric, luxury, etc and I can't help but feel we are going

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This is Lotuses 72nd year so I suspect the awaiting masses will need to brace themselves for some 72nd anniversary special models dressed in the F1 Lotus 72 colours of red and gold?

You would also hope there would be something at Goodwood ‘for the drivers’ , or at least maybe ‘for the dealers’ to help move the current stock and maintain sales through to the ‘new’  product, because  without an energised and robust dealer network you’re fubarred, 

Or maybe we just settle for a new font ? 

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It’s OK folks Uday Senapati’s ‘incredible 2019’ included ‘reviving sales of the current range’. The ‘brand is back on track’ already thanks to their amazing marketing activities too. Phew, what a relief, I thought  for a minute there it was just some more empty sound bites from Phil Popham. Did he mention Lotus DNA again by any chance? 🙄

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The wheel was an incredible invention because we had nothing before it.

Bit like Uday's 2019? To be fair, not been much to shout about outside of the Evija.

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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If they have revived sales of the current range it wasn't in the UK. Desperate times for the UK dealers currently. We've lost Leven already, I fear more will follow. Hate to see Uday's idea of a tough year!

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I’ve been a Lotus customer many, many times since the late 1960’s but I’ve never once received any marketing communication from them. 😤

Mercedes, on the other hand....................

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4 minutes ago, Spinney said:

I’ve been a Lotus customer many, many times since the late 1960’s but I’ve never once received any marketing communication from them. 😤

Mercedes, on the other hand....................

I’ve owned two Lotus - one nearly new the other new. I haven’t received marketing material or satisfaction surveys etc. It’s an area that can be improved with little spend.

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Just now, Frickin_idiot said:

I’ve owned two Lotus - one nearly new the other new. I haven’t received marketing material or satisfaction surveys etc. It’s an area that can be improved with little spend.

Can I suggest you don’t hold your breath whilst waiting. 😉

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6 hours ago, Neal H said:

I had a ‘marketing’ email from Lotus last week. First one ever. Progress?

Yes we also had an email regarding a little help, with purchasing from the existing range and further emails from Isabelle a relationship manager 

Darryl & Sue

Proud to drive and own a true British supercar the Evora GT430

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10 hours ago, The Pits said:

If they have revived sales of the current range it wasn't in the UK. Desperate times for the UK dealers currently. We've lost Leven already, I fear more will follow. Hate to see Uday's idea of a tough year!

Sorry but Leven was much more than Lotus. It was only last year iirc they were named Aston Martin best global dealer. They absolutely did not go to the wall due to Lotus.

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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Regardless, these are still desperate times for UK dealers and I still fear some more names will follow sadly. I hope to be wrong about that and that sales really have been ‘revived’ but has anyone here bought a new Lotus in the last few months?

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Two weeks into the new year and it’s all doom and gloom on the future of Lotus and it’s from the usual suspects, great news for the lotus membership in Scotland they still have one of the best dealership in the country, to point the finger at Lotus for Leven’s demise is a bit childish. For me I am so happy for owners and the employees of the brand the north of the border. Why be so negative?

 

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Regardless, these are still desperate times for UK dealers and I still fear some more names will follow sadly. I hope to be wrong about that and that sales really have been ‘revived’ but has anyone here bought a new Lotus in the last few months?

Winter and Christmas not the best time to buy a Lotus?

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On 20/01/2020 at 20:23, NedaSay said:

Shanghai?!

I believe there will be a presence in Shanghai. 

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11 hours ago, DarrylV8 said:

Yes we also had an email regarding a little help, with purchasing from the existing range and further emails from Isabelle a relationship manager 

I got the feeling from Isabelle that there would be more communication from the factory in the future, and although we were not looking at purchasing another Lotus besides the 430, a little Elise is now on the cards 

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Congratulations, a fine choice. Totally agree with your reasoning. Marketed properly, Lotus could still sell a lot of Elises as they offer a uniquely rewarding driving experience. Unlike a 911 Turbo which feels half asleep until past 160mph, it’s a fast car you can enjoy at all speeds - that really could really catch on one day. ‘Fun at fifty’ was one of the engineering targets for the original Elise. It completely delivered on that and the current Elises continue to do so. So much so I think they are fun at 40mph! Somehow it’s a quality shared by all the current Lotus range, if not all the Lotus cars made to date. Just one point of many that I think Lotus should make more widely understood now they have the resources to do so.

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2 hours ago, The Pits said:

So much so I think they are fun at 40mph! Somehow it’s a quality shared by all the current Lotus range, if not all the Lotus cars made to date. Just one point of many that I think Lotus should make more widely understood now they have the resources to do so.

This is what I keep telling people who have never tried a Lotus before.  Its that super fun, connected feeling you get even at normal speeds that just makes the cars so incredlebly appealing for me.  I really don't understand a lot of modern fast cars these days because you feel like you are driving a sofa unless you start going silly speeds.  Sure a 911 or M4 might be faster than Evora round a track etc ...  but I bet majority don't even track their cars, those who do are not experienced drivers and like me are just going out on track because it's fun not to win a race or set a lap record just because it puts a massive smile on my face.  So who cares what the lap time is! What matters to me is how the car feels and the emotions it stirs in me and I think Lotus are far beyond most other if not all other manufactures in this aspect.  And I totally agree with you Lotus need to make sure people know and understand this character about the cars.  There was a flurry of videos on YouTube last summer of youtubers/influencers demoing the cars and saying just how fun they are to drive, I think that was a good move by Lotus PR dept but clearly a lot more needs to be done. 

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Great, congrats, 430 Cup is very special. Perfect example of the sort of car the current management would never sign off.

Keep ‘em coming. Be nice to see more than 2!

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Yep, all the noises I’m hearing are that the future cars will be more bells and whistles, grand touring, and creature comforts type cars. 

a stripped out lightweight car with a screeming v6 fossil fuel burning engine just isn’t where the future of lotus lies. And in fairness the low sales figures reflect that’s not really what the wider public wants.

fortunately for lotus it is what I want. 😉

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