pete Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 got a ticket yesterday parked in a layby that the local council had put a double yellow line across (was parked inside the yellow line).several others were also given tickets. There were no signs saying no parking in layby and wondered how enforceable this ticket is(£70 fine reduced to 35 if paid in 7 days) Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 A layby you can't park in sounds ridiculous. I'd be having a phone call with the council parking dept if I were you. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted April 10, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Did you park in the speed enforcement vans layby..... id be challenging that one really hard - double yellows are for highways - a layby I'm sure needs the yellows inside it I believe if that's to be enforceable Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPx Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 The double yellow lines cover from the centre line to the edge of the road "land" which is sometimes fenced, sometimes hedgerow and sometimes a building line. It includes kerbs, pavements and grass verges. Unless a layby is mark as a layby or "parking" then the yellow lines means that you're not allowed to stop there. Its probably worth a letter to dispute, but I think that's what you'll get back.... Quote Loving Lionel and Eleanor......missing Charlie and Sonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 8 hours ago, MPx said: The double yellow lines cover from the centre line to the edge of the road "land" which is sometimes fenced, sometimes hedgerow and sometimes a building line. It includes kerbs, pavements and grass verges. Unless a layby is mark as a layby or "parking" then the yellow lines means that you're not allowed to stop there. Its probably worth a letter to dispute, but I think that's what you'll get back.... The council say it is not an official layby and as above. Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted April 10, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 It's not an official layby and is actually called a "cash machine". I hate the idiots that are responsible for stuff like this. Pictures would be good to confirm though. 1 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Waiting Restrictions Chapter 20.5 of the Traffic Signs Manual Quote 20.5 If restrictions are imposed in a lay-by, the lines to diagram 1017 or 1018.1 should be laid at the back of the lay-by and not along the continuation of the main carriageway edge. This should leave no room for doubt that restrictions apply in the lay-by. However 20.3 states Quote ... The restriction imposed by these markings applies from the centre of the road to the highway boundary on the side of the road that the marking is laid (including any lay-bys) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyT Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Don't you just love a contradiction? Could it now be down to whether that has previously been considered/marked as a lay-by? If the 2 rules above pointed out by ChrisJ are current (and I assume they are), I doubt the council would want to risk going to court over it...but then, neither might you?? Good luck anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 You can buy chapter 5 from here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-manual Yours for £26 - or just download the PDF. Why would anyone buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 They say never was an official layby but is just somewhere cars have parked over the years near an entrance to a public path leading to a public park.The yellow lines were put in over the winter. Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Do they have to get a traffic order (or similar) for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 England https://goo.gl/maps/Ww7ARd8g1pS2 Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 They've put double yellow lines there? FFS Have they also stuck yellow lines on the one 100 yards up the road that is labelled Hatfield Broad Oak mini car park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 no Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 So what's the difference? I'd have thought that is National Trust Land and they have built the "layby" specifically for people to park and use their land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Looking at that picture I would question whether or not the highways agency actually own that piece of land. Damn - beaten to it by Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 You might want to make a FOI request to the relevant local/district/county council - see here for an example. edit to add: looks like there must be an accompanying TRO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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