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Thanks Colin, appreciate the invite.

I can make the 24th March - does anyone know if the 350's are OK for a 98db static and 96db drive by?

Also checking if Mr Pittard is free for that date....

Whilst the European circuits are on my hitlist, I would probably aim to do them next year when i have built up my experience and can fully enjoy them.

I want to get a Brands GP day in for sure......

 

 

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Found an old thread where they mentioned the car will be fine noise wise.

 

all booked for the 24th March at goodwood.

 

anyone else going along? 

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Outstanding. Was David available? The guys from the facebook page are Freddie and Alison Eaton,  Philip Hobden and possibly one other. See you there.

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No, he is already booked at brands that day.

will request some tuition from the driver goodwood provide. 

looking forward to it. 

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I think you've found your noise answer already...but yes with a standard exhaust you will test at or just below 98 db static.  When at Brands last year with LoT we had several V6's there and they ran fine, with the exception of one which had the sports exhaust so had to short shift.  My 360 Cup was border line on the static, probably purely down to the different air filter.  I am running with the standard exhaust so I was fine on drive by.

I've heard Goodwood can be tricky on the lower noise days, they vary so double check that before booking.  If it is a LoT day, my guess is that they would book the 98db static day.

I must get some more dates booked too this year, always nice to have track days to look forward to!

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Thanks mark, yes it is a 98db static and 96db drive by so glad you have re-confirmed I should be ok.

looking forward to the lotus on track day, have heard good things about them. 

david pittard is going to recommend someone for me so should be a good day.

Absolutely, get some days booked in :) let us know what you choose. 

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Well this only went and turned up today.....

is it wrong that I feel like a kid at Christmas?

 

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Not at all. 

Did you try it on before you ordered it?

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I did but not this model as it wasn't in stock; Bell said they would swap over if needed.

Bought through GSM Performance who i cant speak highly enough of. They have been very good throughout - from the best price to great communication to offering to resolve any sizing issues etc through either a swap or replacement inner pads.

 

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Regarding helmets, you will discover that like people’s heads, not all helmets are the same shape on the inside. Invariably, one manufacturer can be quite different to another. It is very important to try on as many different types and styles as possible when choosing  

(For my first helmet, years ago, I made the mistake of choosing a helmet based on brand and style. Unfortunately, my head is not a ‘Sparco’ shaped head so I persisted for years with an uncomfortable helmet. My new helmet, coincidentally a Bell, is far, far more comfortable (and therefore safer) for my shape of head). 

It is also just as important to get the helmet fitted by someone who knows what they are doing. There has to be sufficient movement in certain areas but not too much in others. 

Unfortunately, buying motorsports helmets online isn’t normally the best way to go. 

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Bikers often say they either have a Bell or an Arai shaped head! 

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I totally agree, luckily my head was a Bell shape as the Arai get expensive very quickly! 

Will pop up a review for others in the market when i have used it on a track day but first impressions are extremely positive; very light, perfect finish and comfortable. 

@Colin67 As goodwood is up the road from us my wife is considering popping along (she is open to the idea of doing track days and if she gets the bug that makes my life so much easier with regards to buying shiny things), you mentioned other partners will be there - will they be driving or just socialising? I guess my question is related to whether she just pops in, i add her as a guest and she comes out with me, maybe others if thats an option or whether its a good social and worth buying her the meal package etc that you need to do for the LoT day?

 

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Hi Alastair. You won't get many better offers than your wife volunteering to join you on track days. It would be great to see her there. One couple, Freddie and Alison Eaton both drive and in fact both will start competing in the Sprint Championship this year. My wife doesn't drive, (at least not my Lotus) neither do some of the other wives so she will always have company. I have bought my wife the meal option, as I'm sure the others will, as it offers access to the entertainment areas and gives somewhere to sit and socialise (also gets you out of the rain if this shows up.) I know some of the other ladies go on track with their partners, but there is not a snowball in hells chance of my wife accompanying me!! (Its a pity David Pittard cannot attend because she would certainly go out with him, but not me.) Don't forget you will need a helmet for her, but you can hire for £20 on the site and if she wants to drive its an additional £30, but free for her to be a passenger. So, hope that helps. I've found the whole Lotus fraternity really great and since this is an LOT day you will be surrounded by respectful drivers. So, treat the whole day as a treat for your wife and hopefully we will see plenty of you on track this year.   

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Thanks Colin, its great to go in with your eyes open and that info really helps. 

David is going to recommend someone else to me that he rates so hopefully I can secure them for the day - very happy for you to borrow them to take your wife out if she fancies it. 

Yes you will, I am intending to do one a month and would like to join up with as many people on here as i can. 

Am contemplating this one for April:

https://www.goldtrack.co.uk/track-days/brands-hatch-grand-prix/april-2018

Its a lot higher than the others - is that because its Brands GP or because its Goldtrack? Mr Pittard spoke highly of GoldTrack but what makes them so good - is it just less cars?

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Excellent. As potential track days occur to you post them here and it might prompt others to book.

See you at Goodwood. 

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3 hours ago, BatMobile said:

Am contemplating this one for April:

https://www.goldtrack.co.uk/track-days/brands-hatch-grand-prix/april-2018

Its a lot higher than the others - is that because its Brands GP or because its Goldtrack? Mr Pittard spoke highly of GoldTrack but what makes them so good - is it just less cars?

It's that much because it is the GP track. Brands has got some very noise sensitive neighbours (usual NIMBY cr @ p) so the number of days on the GP circuit are very limited. Hence the higher price. Also, F1 (or ex-F1) tracks tend to carry a premium.

Be aware that you will probably be sharing the track with a lot of GT race cars. (The Blancpain GT series is at Brands GP a few weeks later: https://shop.msv.com/BH-18-Blancpain) This might sound like fun but it will probably turn out to be a bit rubbish - the small paddock with be chock full with large artics (so no room or garage space for you); racing cars are fragile so they constantly break down. Breakdowns equal lots of red flags equals reduced track time; racing drivers don't often bother listening during track day briefs so expect lots of over taking in braking zones etc etc. Lots of indiscretions will lead to more red flags; finally, the speed differential between GT race cars and road/track cars can be significant. Not great if either party isn't using their mirrors properly.

Brands GP is a great track but I learnt from last year - try not to visit it too soon before a major race meeting (mine was the BTCC).

 

 

3 hours ago, Colin67 said:

As potential track days occur to you post them here and it might prompt others to book.

You will probably get more exposure if you start a new thread for each specific trackday that you plan to attend. Otherwise, the details might get lost amongst the other posts.

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That Goldtrack price is steep. Brands GP is normally more expensive (so much so that I've never done it) and Goldtrack say the premium is because they book less cars on any given day, but personally I have not had a problem with MSV or Javelin when it comes to queuing (it's normally only a few minutes at most at any given time) and even Brands GP would be a couple of hundred quid cheaper than that. Check the MSV site (they own Brands plus a number of other circuits and are a TDO as well). I've never done a Goldtrack day so maybe I'm missing out! 

Incidentally (and this will be controversial)... trackdays are great, I've been doing them for years and I'd recommend them to anyone but ... if you are hoping to use them as a learning experience prior to going racing rather than a social event then, for me ... a V6 exige of any description is not a beginners car. The safety systems are amazing but take a lot of the learning out of it or, you can switch them off - in which case, you aren't going to want to get close to the limit because the car is expensive and gets twitchy as you approach it (big heavy V6 hanging out the back plus relatively short wheelbase = will let go suddenly if you upset it), and sticky tyres will only exacerbate that - grip, grip, grip, fuuuuuuuucckkkkkkkkkk. I started 10 years ago with a clio 182 (how time flies), which I would still argue is amongst the best starter trackday cars for learning to drive a car on track properly - an MX5 would also be good. And even then, if you bin it its going to cost you - but not as much as binning a V6 exige is going to.

Also, while I think about it - Brands GP - as a beginner. You'd be nuts, for £500 entrance fee that Goldtrack day would cost you, you could book 3 days at Snetterton with Javelin / MSV. There will be a load of racing cars on any day there using it as a cheap test day as it is. 

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@Bravo73 thanks for that, hadn’t even thought about race cars attending. For that cost I would be mightily annoyed.

good idea will post up as I book. 

@Gashead1105 agree with your points, I have David pittard helping me at Silverstone, have one of his friends helping me at goodwood and will then have David for brands hatch gp.

would hope that should give me a great kick start on the three courses I will do most often as I live close. Intend to build slowly and progressively get faster. 

Will be starting with all systems off from the beginning so as to learn the right way (although hey might be getting switched on again quickly :))

I had a Williams clio when I was younger, agree with you, great cars to learn on.

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Hi Alistair. Some good advice and humour above. As a novice myself I've done both the Indy and The GP circuit with David Pittard at my side. The Indy part is in your face and there's always Paddock Hill bend to get your attention each lap, but the GP circuit loop is much more demanding. To exploit this segment requires carrying a lot of speed into the corners, some of which are blind, offer limited run off and can be difficult to judge. You will certainly find very large differences in speed between yourself and the racing fraternity. I agree with Jonny and Will above and I would save this for a little later and book David when you do. Last year  David booked this and used his own car with four clients. That's what i did for the GP circuit and it worked well. Especially the fact that David will have your rear view mirror and can tell you when to move over and anticipate problems. Its also his car at risk and not yours. Its a track you will likely return to each year so might as well learn to drive it properly with David.

BTW. I tried to get Donington for this Monday, but its sold out and I was 6th reserve. So, I've booked the Bedford GT circuit instead, with Javelin, for the same day, 29th Jan. I'm told its a good circuit and should be a good season opener.       

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I will put Brands GP off for a little bit and stick to simpler circuits for now where i can practice what i have learned from David. Would be good to have David with me and really get the maximum out of me and the car. 

David recommended Jack Layton for the 24th March so i have now booked him to spend the day with me. Seems a good guy and also happens to be a goodwood snr instructor. 

Enjoy the 29th Colin, let us know what the day is like. 

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You guys seen this thread.  You won't find a friendlier day at a circuit more suited to Exiges.  I know Anglesey is a trek but there's typically a Northern Convoy and Southern Convoy to join.  It would be fantastic to see some more V6's out to play on Easter Monday!

 

https://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/93399-calling-all-exigers-exige-trackday-at-anglesey/

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thanks @W31SSN for sharing. 

 

Really interesting and a good prep before attending. 

 

Makes me excited to drive this circuit. 

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Hi Alastair. Paid my first visit to Bedford GT circuit on Monday. Great season opener, particularly appealing as there are acres of runoff. About 65 cars attended, but since its nearly 4 miles long frequently on my own. The attendees were all well behaved with a good mix of cars/capabilities. It was run by Javelin, my first time with them. The circuit is a good mix of bends, including long fast straights where you can let it all hangout. Also, because they have many bikers the kerbs are all pretty low to avoid injuries, so you ride right over most of them. 

Had some rain at lunchtime, which resulted in a few participants pirouetting down the straight in front of the pits and sent a few off home. Had to stay off the kerbs for a while but I feel totally confident in the wet in the car, the Toyo R1R's handle it really well, as they did last year at Hethel when it was torrential for a while. The combo of these tyres and the Nitron 46's keep the car well planted in the rain.  

One interesting aspect is that the circuit lies broadly on an east/west axis, with several long straights orientated due West. So, at the very end of the day at this time of the year the sun sits absolutely dead centre, seemingly at road level, so the challenge is to see the turn off....I did miss one, but loads of run off available. 

Overall, I really enjoyed it and will definitely return. i know that a lot of seasoned drivers enjoy it and I definitely recommend it for novices such as ourselves as you can push, confident that you are unlikely to hit anything.....hopefully.     

I have Brands Hatch Indy booked for 25th Feb, with another 220 Cup owner and considering inserting one more before it, but not sure what yet.

So, its Goodwood in March, I have Folembray in May and Spa in July. However, that still leaves loads of other days to fill!

If you fancy any others let me know. 

Be interested in feedback on your upcoming day at Silverstone with David Pittard.

 

   

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