Gold FFM JayEmm Posted May 4, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'm a modern man. I hug. It's fine. Back slightly on topic, @Simon on tour if you want a car that is only ever any good at full chat, try a BMW Z4 M Coupe. Hideous at anything less than 7/10ths. Quote James Martin (JayEmm) Director of Photography & Car Enthusiast Follow my Lotus adventure online! www.jayemm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon on tour Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Here's some picks. Please forgive me for the Evora pick I will clean it today Compaire the engine bays of the cars. Please lotus fix this! Do you lot ever look outside? The lines on the roof are masking tape edges and this is how the car was sent to me after the 3 months back at lotus hq. I stated earlier that when flat out I really enjoy the Lotus, find it horable all other times. I am very board in the uk and have alway fancied motorsport. So I'm thinking maybe I could race it? Is it suitable for events like the lotus cup, or should I have a exige instead? Then I would put up with driving in traffic etc usual crap to get to race the car! I'm always up for a hug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon on tour Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I no both the porches are the top speck. But both cars in lower speck can be had for the same cash as the lotus and the lower speck cars are of the same quality. I did not exspect the lotus to be quite as well tested or finished as the porches but it's a million miles away and for all our sakes and they need to improve. A brilliant design has been tainted by cost cutting and lack of testing. That's at the CEO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM CocoPops Posted May 4, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Is the door closed on the 400 in the pic above? Doesn't look like it.... if it is, then that panel gap is dreadful! 1 Quote Current: 2021 Lotus Elise Cup 250 FE in Isotope Green, Red Alcantara Interior, Carbon Aero Kit, AirCon, Carpets & Mats, NVH pack, Cruise Control, Stereo, Red Calipers. Now Gone: 2018 Lotus Elise Sport 220 in Metallic Blue, Alcantara Pack, Forged Wheels, 2piece brakes, AirCon, Hard/Soft Tops, Red Calipers, Stereo, Interior Colour Pack, NVH Pack, Carpets, Mats. Previously Owned: 2016 Lotus Evora 400, 2010 Lotus Evora NA, 2003 VX220 Supercharged, 2001 VX220 Lightning Yellow Follow my Lotus journey here: http://www.FaceBook.com/HandmadeInHethel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon on tour Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) Yep that's closed! Looks much worst close up. See my frustrations now? I think lotus should replace my prototype car with something finished! Maybee an apology? Edited May 4, 2017 by Simon on tour Type o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon on tour Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Thanks for the invite. I'm down south this weekend but another time maybee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM JayEmm Posted May 4, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Leaving the car for a year, I really don't understand. I've heard of people driving a car to "blow out the cobwebs" but in your case it seems quite literal? Surely you either want the problem fixed, or return the car? If you've not even turned a wheel in it for a year why have you now suddenly got fed up with it and felt the need to come online and moan about it? 2 Quote James Martin (JayEmm) Director of Photography & Car Enthusiast Follow my Lotus adventure online! www.jayemm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011 Chrome Orange Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'm very confused with this thread. I understand issues can cause stress. But, am I missing the issue that prevents the OP from driving the car? Especially not drive it in a year? If indeed the car is causing that much stress, it is best to follow the advise already given and sell or trade it in. Life is too short to stress over some niggles from a car. Best of luck with however you proceed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post Barrykearley Posted May 4, 2017 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 If it helps - I believe bollox is an expression that aids understanding 4 Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 4 hours ago, 2011 Chrome Orange said: I'm very confused with this thread. I understand issues can cause stress. But, am I missing the issue that prevents the OP from driving the car? Especially not drive it in a year? The brand name of the car appears to be short by 2 letters. Oh, and the engine gets wet. 1 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post johnpwalsh Posted May 5, 2017 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Couple of things here on previous post I don't quite get. Not cash born, but can afford to have a 400 which he doesn't like but leaves sitting for a year. Loves the Porker but wants to race a 400, but not cash rich, several comments on quality of the work but has not simply taken it back and just said fix the bloody thing. Depreciation on this car will be a fair bit so why not either get it properly fixed and sell it on. Even as previously suggested give it to high end dealer on sale or return. Better still, let LotusRescue get it seen too, then they can sell it on on his behalf. But they would have to keep it for a while as a test driver just too make sure all is well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post C8RKH Posted May 5, 2017 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I just think the OP should sell it. Cut his losses and keep on buying Stuttgart's finest as he obviously prefers their products. Reading again the OP's posts the impression, and it is just that an impression, is that he is having a laugh. Just how it comes across. I mean "ooo, I'm bored when when I'm in the UK, oh, maybe I could race it. Yeah, I'll take my normal showroom Evora 400 and enter it into the Lotus Cup. Yeah, cool, that sounds like a blast"...... obviously some paraphrasing here but you get the general idea or maybe I'm the one who is taking the piss.... 3 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Cannon Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Is there an ignore button to stop this thread re-appearing? Oh the problems of the rich and famous. 1 Quote In the garage no-one can hear you scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusLeftLotusRight Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I'm curious to know what the OP does for a living that involves 4 months criss-crossing Europe in a couple of black Porsches, whilst leaving an unwanted 75K car depreciating nicely back at home for a year. I'm also not quite sure that being "not from cash" has any relevance with regards to the quality issues of his 400. I think most of us accept that there are valid problems here, but just abandoning the car for a year and then sounding-off on TLF with threats of court action against Lotus might not have been the best way of asking for advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Pits Posted May 5, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 What on earth have pictures of a Panamera got to do with it?! Please, no more, I'd much rather see pictures of a faulty Evora! No you can't race your Evora 400. It's clearly a dreadful car, sell it cheap to someone on here who'll give it a good wash and see those masking tape marks magically disappear! Most bizarre thread we've had on here in some time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gashead1105 Posted May 5, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I'd like to open the bidding for the clearly unfinished Evora at £2.50 and a packet of starburst. A generous offer I feel. This thread is garbage. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon on tour Posted May 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 English was never my strong point being Dyslexic. And yep I've done well! legal proceedings take a lot of time. My porsches are touring cars, no real events to enter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon on tour Posted May 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, The Pits said: What on earth have pictures of a Panamera got to do with it?! Please, no more, I'd much rather see pictures of a faulty Evora! No you can't race your Evora 400. It's clearly a dreadful car, sell it cheap to someone on here who'll give it a good wash and see those masking tape marks magically disappear! Most bizarre thread we've had on here in some time. I stated I liked the car when driven flat out. So racing it would make some sense. The panamera pick are showing a properly designed engine bay that protects the belts and bearings. That cars been off-road, in snow ,up mountains, though desert and intense rain and looks like new. 2 hours ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said: I'm curious to know what the OP does for a living that involves 4 months criss-crossing Europe in a couple of black Porsches, whilst leaving an unwanted 75K car depreciating nicely back at home for a year. I'm also not quite sure that being "not from cash" has any relevance with regards to the quality issues of his 400. I think most of us accept that there are valid problems here, but just abandoning the car for a year and then sounding-off on TLF with threats of court action against Lotus might not have been the best way of asking for advice. 3 hours ago, C8RKH said: I just think the OP should sell it. Cut his losses and keep on buying Stuttgart's finest as he obviously prefers their products. Reading again the OP's posts the impression, and it is just that an impression, is that he is having a laugh. Just how it comes across. I mean "ooo, I'm bored when when I'm in the UK, oh, maybe I could race it. Yeah, I'll take my normal showroom Evora 400 and enter it into the Lotus Cup. Yeah, cool, that sounds like a blast"...... obviously some paraphrasing here but you get the general idea or maybe I'm the one who is taking the piss.... Yep its you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon on tour Posted May 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 3 hours ago, johnpwalsh said: Couple of things here on previous post I don't quite get. Not cash born, but can afford to have a 400 which he doesn't like but leaves sitting for a year. Loves the Porker but wants to race a 400, but not cash rich, several comments on quality of the work but has not simply taken it back and just said fix the bloody thing. Depreciation on this car will be a fair bit so why not either get it properly fixed and sell it on. Even as previously suggested give it to high end dealer on sale or return. Better still, let LotusRescue get it seen too, then they can sell it on on his behalf. But they would have to keep it for a while as a test driver just too make sure all is well. I was not born with cash. I'm not a spoilt rich kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted May 5, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Simon on tour said: I was not born with cash. I'm not a spoilt rich kid. And that is relevant and needs a callout out? Nobody on here said you were so curious you need to raise it. Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bibs Posted May 5, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 If this thread becomes personal it'll be locked, in fact it's so odd it's close to being locked anyway. Please stick to topic. 3 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal H Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I really don't understand why you don't just hand it back to the dealer to sell on your behalf and be rid of it, clearly you've lost all faith in it. I know there will be a depreciation hit, but money doesn't appear to be the major problem and as others have said, life's too short to stress about cars. Get rid and move on if you can afford to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pickle Posted May 5, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 This thread is turning into something that I could read on pistonheads. Comments on the OPs spelling or questioning his lifestyle and background are making it personal, which it shouldn't be. I'm taking the thread at face value and seeing as someone just venting his frustration. If I'm being taken for a ride so be it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon on tour Posted May 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, pickle said: This thread is turning into something that I could read on pistonheads. Comments on the OPs spelling or questioning his lifestyle and background are making it personal, which it shouldn't be. I'm taking the thread at face value and seeing as someone just venting his frustration. If I'm being taken for a ride so be it. Thanks Pickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Pits Posted May 5, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 That's fair enough Paul. If this is all genuine I hope the OP will forgive my suspicions. Hopefully you can also understand the grounds for being suspicious. You're right though, innocent until proven otherwise is more of a TLF approach. Simon, wash and wax your car, the masking tape marks will come off. You would be far better off buying a race car to go racing with. If you mean trackdays then the Evora will do a good job. An Exige will do an even better job. Please, no more about the Panamera. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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