Barrykearley 5,227 Report post Posted June 30, 2017 Righto - come on chaps I'd like to bottom this out. the clutch seems to be some kind of secret - and I'd just like it to be simple cross referenced I've bought a brand new one from SJ. It's a Valeo kit - 801299. this has been somewhat hijacking @ian29gte thread - so here it is in its own topic Quote Only here once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailorbob 166 Report post Posted July 1, 2017 The S4 & GT3 clutch pressure plate should be rated at 7000 N (I've seen one removed from an S4 marked 235 CP 7000) and the S4s & S300 rated at 8300 N. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swindon_alan 1,644 1 Vehicles Report post Posted July 2, 2017 For reference, the discussion on S4/S4s/S300 clutches on Ian's thread starts here: continues for about a page and ends here: On 01/07/2017 at 07:41, sailorbob said: The S4 & GT3 clutch pressure plate should be rated at 7000 N (I've seen one removed from an S4 marked 235 CP 7000) and the S4s & S300 rated at 8300 N. So the one Barry bought from SJ is slightly underrated for an S4 then at 6500 N? Do we think it will suffice? Quote I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 5,227 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 It'll do till I breaks it..... Quote Only here once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chillidoggy 3,488 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 If it slips, it might stop the gearbox breakages. 2 Quote Margate Exotics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Llewelyn82 88 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Holy thread hijack Batman! I know this is old news but I am keen to bottom out the mystery of the UN1 clutch cross reference once and for all.... I found this info in a Valeo catalogue and thought I'd share: Looks like either the 801299 or 801300 kits are both suitable.... ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky 1,995 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Fits, but the clamping force is too low. You name it, I've tried it, PNM has the best solution in my opinion. 1 Quote British Ambassador to Florida, New York, Denmark and Newfoundland. And Sweden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Llewelyn82 88 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Thanks for the advice but I'm still tempted to take a gamble on one just because I am quite tight and don't like paying "specialist" premiums.... Has anyone suffered any ill effects of a 6500nm clamping force?? Does it cause slip? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 5,227 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 I’ve posted this before - in the cross ref section. the Valeo kit is what sj sell - I’ve booted the daylights out of mine and it’s not slipped yet Quote Only here once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky 1,995 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Each to their own. I'd always fit a kit proven by a specialist in preference to something designed for an old Renault 25. And as a prospective buyer I'd be looking to pay less, knowing any out-of-spec components were fitted. Quote British Ambassador to Florida, New York, Denmark and Newfoundland. And Sweden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 5,227 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 The SJ kit has been fitted to hundreds of uk esprits - I’ve not seen much reference to issues with it. It is standard valeo stuff as well. Some of the other stuff SJ sells which doesn’t perform well - we all know about frankly - so I would consider this clutch to be fine or we would see topics everywhere Quote Only here once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailorbob 166 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 The Valeo 801300 kit's clutch pressure plate is only rated at 5500 N. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andydclements 466 2 Vehicles Report post Posted October 12, 2018 I've had a clutch fail at c6000 miles on the lower clamping force BUT, the engine isn't standard, so some of that degradation of durability may be caused by the increase in torque. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 5,227 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 47 minutes ago, sailorbob said: The Valeo 801300 kit's clutch pressure plate is only rated at 5500 N. And that’s what you get from SJ Quote Only here once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailorbob 166 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 I thought the SJ pressure plate was the same as the one from the Valeo 801299 kit. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrykearley 5,227 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Yes - please see the very top post all the info is there. you will also notice cp6500 stamped on the plate Quote Only here once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Advantage 856 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 A straightforward Google shows that as being listed for various V6 Renaults (the 25 and GTA Alpine etc). How accurate that might be is unknown to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky 1,995 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Entirely accurate! BTW that gin is sublime. 1 Quote British Ambassador to Florida, New York, Denmark and Newfoundland. And Sweden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Advantage 856 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Special Edition for a special boy. Is it ok to go off topic now the question has been resolved? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky 1,995 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 There's a topic? Quote British Ambassador to Florida, New York, Denmark and Newfoundland. And Sweden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevefh 5 Report post Posted October 13, 2018 Hi all,many year ago SJ supplied me with a CP 6500, when I put my foot down it always slipped.When I spoke to Steve he sent me a CP 7000 and didn’t want the first one back. My car is not modified,so I would not fit the CP 6500 to an S4. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glyn Harper 51 1 Vehicles Report post Posted October 23, 2018 I ended up going for PNM Engineering PNMQ0014 kit for mine when I swapped it earlier in the year. My car has since been dyno'd at 301bhp and it seems fine. So that's another option. I didn't take a photo at the time of what the new clutch actually is though sadly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrDangerUS 75 1 Vehicles Report post Posted July 12 (edited) Lotus Esprit S4s/ Sport 300 Clutch Kit number is PNMQ6070 . Anyone has its clamping force & torque rating? Edited July 12 by MrDangerUS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chillidoggy 3,488 Report post Posted July 12 6 hours ago, MrDangerUS said: Lotus Esprit S4s/ Sport 300 Clutch Kit number is PNMQ6070 . Anyone has its clamping force & torque rating? 1 Quote Margate Exotics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrDangerUS 75 1 Vehicles Report post Posted July 12 Wow! AP's kit has CP8300 in it ? That's exactly as my OE cover! Grrreat! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
