esprit888 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2017 The issue is the radiator fans do not run (federal 94 S4 with A/C) either at temperature (>92) or when the A/C is turned on (this may be misleading as its possible there is no R12 so the low-pressure switch may be stopping it from energizing?) Regardless they should work at temperature, so:Checked all fuses and relay bases for heat damage/loose connections-all good Tried swapping relays, no difference.Removed the AC request relay (I'm not sure if running in diagnostic mode energizes this one) The rear AC relay is in.Jumped pins A-B on the ALDL connector, fans do not run with ignition off or on (also tried with AC request relay on and off) They should run in diag mode, but they don’t. Decided to take the sensor and ECM out of the equation first. Jumped Pins 30 to 87 on the front relay, fans run! This indicates an issue with the rear relay. Removed the rear relay and jumped pin 30 to 87, fans DID NOT run (checked for +12V at pin 30 - ignition on, +12v confirmed) Double checked fuse 13 and it was good. I then checked for continuity from pin 85 on the front relay to pin 87 on the back relay (pin 85 on the front relay gets its ‘fans on’ signal from pin 87 on the back relay) and did NOT get continuity (yellow line on attached pic). So, my question is what is there between pin 85 on the front relay to pin 87 on the back relay that is suspect? The wiring diagram shows two items, an RHC 12 ?? and an CBHC 2 ?? anyone know what these are? On the A/C circuit there appears to be a Zener diode but that should not stop it from running in temp mode. I then ran +12v to the front relay (pin 85 with the relay installed) and it energized the relay and operated the fans, the perplexing issue though is that the fans do not run in either temp or A/C mode for the rear relays, but do run when jumpering 30 and 87 on the front relay. Anyone come across this gremlin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escape 594 2 Vehicles Report post Posted August 2, 2017 You've done a good job diagnosing the problem! One more test you could do is check for continuity between pin 86 of the AC request relay (at the rear) and pin 85 of the rad fan relay (at the front). My guess would be a bad connection at pin 85 of the rad fan relay. If you do get continuity to the AC request relay, it could be the low pressure cut-off preventing the AC from working, and a problem in the wire from the ECM so the fans don't come on with temperature. RHC = rear harness connector (located at the front A-pillar IIRC), CBHC = coil box harness connector (located on the RH fuel tank), the numbers indicate the cavity in the connector. Greetz, Filip Quote I have made many mistakes in my life. Buying a multiple Lotus is not one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff Wilson 0 Report post Posted June 22 Hi,, did you solve the problemon your S4?if so what was the problem? Regards Geoff Wilson (England) [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
