Hellers Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Pistonheads article is now up and I'm the first to comment! Trying to set the right tone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAS-118 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Odd nothing on Autocar or Autoexpress websites yet ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Gazm Posted July 20, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 hours ago, JayEmm said: Nope, I'm on the internet constantly refreshing facebook with the rest of the common folk One other thing I just twigged... no auto option mentioned I also notice the US Spec 430 launches next year. So the run isn't really 60 cars, thats just for the UK and "rest of the world" I think this car is going to kill the GTE values (was it called a 350 in the end) It had the better looks but less performance than the 410 and was very exclusive but the 430 seems to have all of the above. I like the return of the Lotus "mouth", the 400 always seemed a bit too Audi/Lambo... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusLeftLotusRight Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Bingoking and Domboy have had a "GT430" GTEs for years! (Komo-Tec'd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsu Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 The Front bumper is the better ever seen on an Evora, great job ! I hope Lotus will fit it on the Evora 400/410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bibs Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 The front bumper is a work of art, it really is stunning and of course, very functional too. 5 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickle Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 @Bibs you've done a great job of giving us the details, but what's your personal opinion having seen the car in the flesh presumably? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedaSay Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) GT430 is the name. I like it. the 1299 kg kerb weight is impressive for a car which is not full carbon and has a big lump of a mass produced V6 with a supercharger on top. the 440 nm peak torque with peak torque higher up the rev range, this means that there's now nothing left in this gearbox that is its max rating Aisin and Toyota won't guarantee it any further. the 436hp is a nice incremental upgrade there's still a lot of performance to be freed they say it is available at 7000rpm not 7200 though ! the 250kg of downforce shows how intricate the redesigned bit are, and also that wing that looks so familiar... that rear bumper is a thing of beauty really looks the part the front bumper is nice but looks "old", Russel Car went back to its initial design and made the side intakes bigger while the aero guys added the winglets ....It is a very nice design but it takes me back to the 280 design. the carbon seats are in but they are not the absolute lightest !!! the Lotus probax race seat are definitely lighter... the price 112k is reasonable 60 units worldwide, they will sell them I'm not worried it may take two years which will leave room for another limited run before the replacement of the Evora that is not scheduled before 2022.... Edited July 20, 2017 by NedaSay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anthonyyule Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Ordered 25 minutes ago, Gazm said: I also notice the US Spec 430 launches next year. So the run isn't really 60 cars, thats just for the UK and "rest of the world" I think this car is going to kill the GTE values (was it called a 350 in the end) It had the better looks but less performance than the 410 and was very exclusive but the 430 seems to have all of the above. I like the return of the Lotus "mouth", the 400 always seemed a bit too Audi/Lambo... Only 6 cars for the UK. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bibs Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, pickle said: @Bibs you've done a great job of giving us the details, but what's your personal opinion having seen the car in the flesh presumably? To make an Evora 1,250kgs is quite something, it's what Lotus core strength is and this car is an expression of that. To make an Evora as fast as a 3-Eleven is just bonkers. There's been a lot of thought put into making it quicker and the attention to detail is astounding. The undertrays are thinner, the glass is thinner, the rad is now held in place with ali rather than steel mounts as they are lighter (and won't rust!). Even the carbon binnacle cover saves 100g! Standard kit like Ohlins is mustard, they even use the GT4 mounts and there aren't many cars with this quality of engineering and motorsport components at this price point. The car has a 3cm shorter nose and the rear bumper has been redesigned at the edges to give an impression of a shorter rear end, so it looks more squat and aggressive, rather than make it wider. In the flesh the front end is what really kept my attention. The front bumper really looks awesome, it's a proper work of art. The whole car just screamed 'race car' to me but it's got that Evora duality, so we know it's going to be epic on track but it's actually a really usable car still that you can pop to the shops in. You can order one of these now, and it'll be delivered in October. It's toe-to-toe with the GT3, there's no denying that. Good luck getting your hands on one though. 4 minutes ago, anthonyyule said: Ordered Spec? 7 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashead1105 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, anthonyyule said: Ordered Only 6 cars for the UK. spec? discount?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anthonyyule Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Havent finalised my spec yet. Absolutely no discount.... if you are prepared to ask them they will no doubt move to the next on the list - but have a go. I will be working through my own deal with my 6 month old 250 Cup! Build is likely to be November - 2 orders already placed from Scotland....... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSlow Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I like it a lot! Looking at the competition you get a lot of car for you money. Even though it's pricey comparing to the Lotus models. Reading the full TLF article I take it that you would get the 410 CF seats as standard and the ones on the photo are optional extras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickle Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 was 50:50 mentioned at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM JayEmm Posted July 20, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Is it wrong that the change of steel to aluminium for brackets makes me happier than most of the other items mentioned? This has been an oversight for far too long IMHO. Personally I doubt GTE owners are at all worried, they will always be unusual and special cars. I do look forward to seeing one of these in the flesh, it no doubt looks considerably better. 2 Quote James Martin (JayEmm) Director of Photography & Car Enthusiast Follow my Lotus adventure online! www.jayemm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyyule Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, CaptainSlow said: I like it a lot! Looking at the competition you get a lot of car for you money. Even though it's pricey comparing to the Lotus models. Reading the full TLF article I take it that you would get the 410 CF seats as standard and the ones on the photo are optional extras? That's how I read it yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedaSay Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, JayEmm said: Is it wrong that the change of steel to aluminium for brackets makes me happier than most of the other items mentioned? This has been an oversight for far too long IMHO. Personally I doubt GTE owners are at all worried, they will always be unusual and special cars. I do look forward to seeing one of these in the flesh, it no doubt looks considerably better. Nope it isn't. I also appreciate that little fact and I'm not yet in the market for these cars. The steel bits have had a torrid stories so switching over to aluminium will bring some peace of mind to some owners and they will look better and save a bit of weight. Pretty sure some owners from the early 280 and S350 models will place a call to Hethel to inquire about those new alloy bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bibs Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Phones are ringing off the hook at the factory. 3 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSlow Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Would be interesting to see the harness kit; Quote Lightweight titanium harness frame and four-point harnesses (can only be specified with standard carbon fibre sports seats)£4,000 €5,600 Given that this is a 2+0 configuration it makes me wonder if that kit can be fit to a S1 2+0??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM JayEmm Posted July 20, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 If that's the case Bibs I guess the big question for Lotus is.... if they sell their initial "allocation", will they make more a la 380 Cup? Quote James Martin (JayEmm) Director of Photography & Car Enthusiast Follow my Lotus adventure online! www.jayemm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedaSay Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bibs said: Phones are ringing off the hook at the factory. Could it be sold out before the end of the week? Will Japan do another 20 cars order preempt? Will Lotus have to add cars to the initial run to make up for the demand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM JayEmm Posted July 20, 2017 Gold FFM Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Also, taking some more time to analyse the high resolution photos, there is a lot I *do* like - interior in particular. This carbon strip is what I think the 410 deserved, not the random little carbon sliver on the regular plastic item. https://www.thelotusforums.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/20170720130121-ce1e7d27.jpg 1 Quote James Martin (JayEmm) Director of Photography & Car Enthusiast Follow my Lotus adventure online! www.jayemm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedaSay Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 How long until some S1 owners upgrade their front bumper to the 430 design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsu Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, NedaSay said: How long until some S1 owners upgrade their front bumper to the 430 design? Very good question ! You take off the carbon blade under the front bumper and it's perfect for the Evora 400/410. This new front bumper is a masterpiece of design. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypriot Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, JayEmm said: Also, taking some more time to analyse the high resolution photos, there is a lot I *do* like - interior in particular. This carbon strip is what I think the 410 deserved, not the random little carbon sliver on the regular plastic item. https://www.thelotusforums.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/20170720130121-ce1e7d27.jpg I would definitely add that a 400... looks yummy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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