Evora GT430

[bruchion]

• Are you able to take off the new front carbon air blade and the rear profiled carbon wing to see what the normal Evora could be 

  

[Connor - Central Lotus]

Central Lotus DO have the last remaining build slot. Murrays have 2, Silverstone have 2, and Hoffmans have 1 leaving the last one for Central Lotus.. they have already paid for the car so 100% have one. 

[Bibs]

As guessed above Connor

It is for stock or a customer? 

[The Pits]

@JG220 I think someone's been spending too much time watching Jayemm videos! Very popular but totally unfounded misconception about both Lotus and Porsche power outputs. The 430 will do its talking on the track. The bit the cynics gloss over is the more you believe the power and weight figures are exaggerated the more remarkable their track performance becomes. If an Evora 410 really has 375bhp and weighs 1400kg then it must have the greatest chassis ever made to keep up with a V6 Cup.

[rallyesax]

1 hour ago, bruchion said:

• Are you able to take off the new front carbon air blade and the rear profiled carbon wing to see what the normal Evora could be 

  

Looks hell good. 

Thx for the photoshop. That would trully make a sublime 400 facelift.

[CocoPops]

9 minutes ago, The Pits said:

If an Evora 410 really has 375bhp and weighs 1400kg then it must have the greatest chassis ever made to keep up with a V6 Cup.

Why? If the 410/400 is down on Power, how do you know the Cup isn't down on power

[Bentzion]

I want to interject here...HP is measured at the crank...Wheel HP is what is supposed to matter.... but NOTHING matters except for how the torque is delivered.   Everyone talks about HP but it's all BS. And lotus has to be careful how much toque it delivers to the standard gearbox. 

Edited July 23, 2017 by Bentzion

[Corsu]

@bruchion Thanks a lot, great job !!! The car design looks far better than the regular one 

[scotty435]

2 hours ago, Bibs said:

Maybe there are more than 6 available to the UK after all or Murray's reduced their order? 

Titanium exhaust plus Ohlins as a start, that's 5 figures before we look all the carbon...

Was going to say, is the press car included in the 6, but then noticed its LHD

[scotty435]

One thing that no one as mentioned yet, well as far as I know, got to say I do like the black stone chip protection in front of the rear wheels, I think it gives the impression of width, a wider rear track.

[The Pits]

2 hours ago, CocoPops said:

Why? If the 410/400 is down on Power, how do you know the Cup isn't down on power

Conspiracy theorists have said the same about the Exige, 320bhp max, but the same thing applies. My car has lapped Goodwood quicker than a Nissan GTR can manage. If that's achieved with 320bhp that just makes Lotus look more amazing, not less. I'd rather have a car that's faster on track than it is in the pub.

[Hedgehogfromhell]

Which incidentally is pretty much what I've said on PH in the last hour...

Never understood why certain types feel the need to thrash out meanless times like they've done them personally... 

I don't care what this outputs - it's bloody gorgeous and I just think it's massively unfair that I can't afford one lol.

[mack73]

3 hours ago, scotty435 said:

One thing that no one as mentioned yet, well as far as I know, got to say I do like the black stone chip protection in front of the rear wheels, I think it gives the impression of width, a wider rear track.

This, looks great

[Bibs]

The shape of it also reflects the angles higher up on the tailgate, it meshes really well with the shape of the car.

[Julian73]

On 7/21/2017 at 07:09, Corsu said:

I wonder if Lotus would offer for the new 400/410 MY2018 the front end of the 430 wihtout the carbon blade and a new package option including some features of the 430GT to cut weight. (Brake, Ohlins, etc ...). It would be a shame to not doing that, the factory could earn easy money.  

 

With my 410 on the factory floor right now, I would order the brake discs, Ohlins, wider wheels in a heart beat; I already tried to get the factory to add A-panel wheel vents

[Julian73]

On 7/21/2017 at 08:38, Snoopy1969 said:

@The Pits

"Sport 410 still appeals greatly. You could get 430bhp from one very easily, although not a good idea before the warranty's expired. There's fun to be had from being more of an underdog on trackdays. 430 styling is more exciting and aggressive, 410 is more elegant. The question I have now is, will Lotus fit Ohlins to a Sport 410?"

I tend to disagree - the fact that R. Carr "went back" to the "Lotus mouth" makes the 430 in my eyes more elegant than the more "boxer-style" 410 - all a matter of taste of course, be with you with the question of the int, S1 most Special (also agreeon the 288 hint ;-)

As I currently have about 430 out of my S1, I will definitely be boosting my 410 to about 450 within its first 6 months of life.  I look at it this way, same engine - same transmission but with the added protection of charge cooler and trans oil cooler. 

[Corsu]

@Julian73 You're right. Tell us if the factory is agreed

[TBD]

On 21.7.2017 at 21:39, Snoopy1969 said:

@TBD mobile says 4 allocations for Germany free.......(well, not free of charge .........)

Not for me, I'm still enjoying the EX460. I do love the GT430, but I can't see the reason to change. Also, I'm sure we will see more variants, hopefully a wide body version closer to the original GTE.

[Snoopy1969]

@TBD fine, good to hear that you are happy with your car - (I guess) you are quite right, there will be more and more variants to come....good for them that to not have the luck to own an awesome Lotus / Evora now, hard to decide for the actual Evora owners when / if a Change might be sensible.....

[Snoopy1969]

as the gt 430 does not have an airco without paying add. Money they could promote this like that:

@The Pits I think that comes near your thoughts (if not the car shown ... ;-) ....but the "non-Option" thinking is a very attractive one in the end.......

[Breeze]

The endless discussion of what BHP does it make.... Presumably Lotus quote BHP Din ( At the flywheel, with all engine ancillaries )  If someone has got  375 at the wheels on a rolling road, that would be pretty close to 400bhp din.   I would also have thought that Lotus would be in major deep legal shite if they were caught massaging their figures upwards, never mind the adverse publicity it would bring.

[Bravo73]

1 hour ago, Breeze said:

If someone has got  375 at the wheels on a rolling road, that would be pretty close to 400bhp din.

FWIW, the 375 figured mentioned was a calculated FHP figure, not at the wheels. It was @CocoPops's 400. 

[Likuid]

Is there any precedent for a car company getting sued for misrepresenting power figures? Its not like they call it the Evora 400 and claim its 375 anywhere. Like the Exige 350 is claimed to be actually 345 on their site, but the 400 is outright claimed to be 400. Now I understand dynos are different and certain things can affect horse power figures. But it seems that it should  at least dyno 400 +/- 10HP (390 - 410).  25 missing HP seems to be blatant false advertising.

[ramjet]

Welcome to TLF Ryan.

You should duck over to the Introductions area and say hi in there as well. Some photos of your car would be great as well.  

[The Pits]

Bhp discussion's been done many times, just because a Lotus isn't making the claimed power on the dyno doesn't mean it's not making the claimed power. There was an issue with sensors when not using 4 wheel rolling roads that is well documented but still the rumours persist along with the equally unlikely story that Porsche understate their power figures. At the end of the day people believe what they want to believe. In my experience the cars perform well relative to their competitors and that this is what matters most.

Would be great to get back to discussing the GT430.