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On 19.2.2018 at 20:30, The Pits said:

The part I take issue with is that the conclusions are drawn on the basis of a cold, wet road drive. Ambient temperature was 7 degrees C. The writer would have had a totally different experience in the dry on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2s.

The inevitable win for the Porsche won't surprise anyone. However the reasons given for the Evora losing the comparison are literally the last things you'd expect.

Totally agree on mentioning the weather conditions - such a comparison does not make sense if it takes place in a weather more or less not suitable for the mich cup tires.

I would like to know how much the cars weight in their more or less " real world"/ as tested configuration. All that theoretical speech on the weight savings is without sense when we do not know the "real" result. 

All 60 gt430 sold? Interesting point, in Germany at least 4 cars advertised.....the wrong description of the GTE is also "remarkable" - sorry but if I woild be a professional journo I should know better.....at least some nice pics

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Nothing to add hml_xy, that's exactly what I'm thinking :)

Never found that feeling on the steering wheel on any other car than a Lotus.

Porsche is a really great car, especialy the GT3, but it's very perfect and that's not what I'm looking for.

Maybe this GT430 is not the fastest, the most powerfull, the most luxury, but when I look at it something happened :sofa:

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I'm very disappointed EVO have returned to poor and slightly dubious journalism. I am fairly sure when the GT430 first appeared in their pages it was a five star car... now it appears to have lost half a star? Very poor.

This article actually reminds me of their recent Aston Martin DB11 V8 review. The entire review told you how the V8 was a better car than the V12... but then it scored a lower result? Almost as if they'd been told it wasn't allowed to be "better" than the V12.

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I haven't read the article so my thoughts are based on whats been reported on the net. For me the biggest non surprise is that the handling 'feel' of the Porsche has been improved. It's the one key difference that Lotus has always had. Why wouldn't Porsche try and match it?  I am surprised if the 430 was found to be in some way lacking, as I can't see Lotus having lost that feel from the previous S1, and 400 derivatives I have driven. It may just be that the writer was informed that the Porsche ought to be mentioned for its better driving feel? 

Why was I not surprised?  I was lucky enough to drive a gt4 on track recently. It had some suspension mods that made me compare it favourably to my Evora handling. So much so that I could see myself in a relatively cheap Cayman GTS with the same suspension mods. It was that good.

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The Porsche's 'superb steering feel' was certainly stressed over and over again, just in case anyone missed the point.

I love the way every other journalist has praised the GT430's steering yet it only takes one guy to knock it and suddenly EPAS is better than hydraulic steering. They're in raptures about the Porsche victory and appalled about the price of the GT430 at the playground yet it's OK for someone to pay £50k over list for a GT3. He's the smart guy, anyone buying a GT430 is a total blinkered idiot. Very weird bunch over there. So angry and bitter about Lotus, they really want to see them fail. Thank goodness we have this place!

 

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I bet Porsche had a technician sorting things out where lotus probably just sent the car. If this is the case then they need to get with it in this regard and ensure the car is always set up best for the road/temp etc.

lotus has no right to even be compared to Porsche with their huge budgets and development programs; they should be absolutely miles ahead. 

the fact it seems the empire has had to defeat the rebel alliance with a spurious claim shows how great our cars actually are! 

I agree with the above post, lotus is a contrarian choice. You buy one as you like to be different and stand out from the herd.

Imagine what will happen when geely/suv money starts to give lotus some real cash to spend....Porsche should be worried.

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Just managed to pick up my copy of evo on my short 12hr trip to London.

After reading the article (and I am by no means mad that our beloved brand „lost“...): When did a car with such a soul- and feedback lacking steering ever get away with so many stars for the rating?

Also interesting that they tested car 1/60 - I thought mine was 1/60?!! ? 

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Should probably be in the TLF GT430 Club thread really but my word seeing two together was some sight. Some incredible (and very valuable) cars at Hoffman’s but I wouldn’t swap my GT430 for any of them.

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I was dropping off the VX220SC at Craig Moncreiff's yesterday to get her ready for this years Hoon's and track days so took the opportunity to call in to Murray lotus in Edinburgh to see the Burnt Orange GT430.   

I can see how the colour might be a bit marmite, however, boy oh boy, does that GT430 look like something else in the flesh. Absolute stunning piece of kit and a real weapon.  The spec of the Murray's car is superb and the orange stitching really subtle and classy.  The car just looks immense. The quality of the carbon is superb. I mean, really superb.  I don't have OCD so found the fact that the carbon wing does not have the "herringbone" split in the centre a minor annoyance, someone with OCD would I suspect go apoplectic about that!

The car just looks so right. i thought the little plastic lip on the rear wheel arches would look shit as per the pictures I had seen - in truth and reality, it does not at all and is perfectly in keeping and almost unoticeable.

After a really thorough look around the "only" niggle I had was with the front wheel arches - i thought when you got down on your hands and knees and looked inside the wheel arch that the finish of the body around the "a pillar indent" on the inside (so not really visible) looked a bit rough and unfinished.  I kid you not, that was the ONLY fault/niggle/nitpick I could really find on the whole car!

I'll never spend £120k on a car - however, I can honestly say that if I was to spend £120k on a car I would not have any hesitation in buying a GT430.  It has presence, fit, finish and style to match anything in its price range. It looks every bit the exclusive exotic it is, and yet, being a Lotus, it was built to be driven hard and to take it. To me, that is really what is remarkable about the GT430.  The fact that it was built with the EXPECTATIOn that someone who loves driving for the sake of driving would drive and wring it's bloody neck on road and track.  Yes, you could have a McLaren for another £25k, but the McLaren would cost a small fortune to run hard and you'd be shitting yourself about the depreciation and the servicing bills.  Lotus builds fast accessible cars with the aim that they will be driven and driven hard. These days, Ferrari's, McLaren's and the GT Porsche's are all about the bragging rights of ownership as opposed to the joy of using them for the majority of owners.

I started out looking the Burnt Orange GT430 thinking, yeeeewwwww, marmite. After 15 minutes of walking around, drinking it all in, taking in the details and the neat little touches. Well, for the first time in my life, I found myself actually liking marmite.

That is one mighty fine, usable, gorgeous, street weapon that Murray's have there.  Stunning. Simply stunning.

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I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. 

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On 22/02/2018 at 23:19, The Pits said:

Should probably be in the TLF GT430 Club thread really but my word seeing two together was some sight. Some incredible (and very valuable) cars at Hoffman’s but I wouldn’t swap my GT430 for any of them.

so it was you in hofmanns! I was in there at the same time as you, and I thought I recognised you from your videos... your car is stunning.  I was the chap driving away from Hofmanns in the MSG evora 400 when you passed.  Its amazing what a different looking beast the 430 is to the 400.  Its almost like a totally different car! All the little details are fantastic.  I really hope one day to get behind the wheel of one, although I must admit I was having a really close look at the Aston Martin v12 vantage s manual (the one with the dog leg gearbox) that hofmanns had in their showroom.  There is something about that car! 

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24 minutes ago, Cypriot said:

 I was having a really close look at the Aston Martin v12 vantage s manual (the one with the dog leg gearbox) that hofmanns had in their showroom.  There is something about that car! 

Yup. It's not a Lotus! ;)

I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. 

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Second that and @C8RKH comments and observations. Dropped my Volvo off for service on Friday and had a good nosey round it (the GT430, not my Volvo.....). It really does look like it means business. The colour and the carbon contrast work really well together. It did have a 'Do Not Touch' sign on the dash - apparently there is a buyer in the offing............;)

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