Evora GT430

[TBD]

Fortunately I'm sure Lotus will sell all 60 units before I have a chance to get the needed money together. 

But, at least on EUR-prices the base cost (151.000 €) is now fully equal to the Porsche GT3 base cost (152.000 €). I'm sure that will keep the discussion lively on Porker biased forums.  

In any case, JMG is to be commended for upselling Lotus quite efficiently.

In comparison to the GTE you really have to love the aero on the 430. They really seem to have done quite some work on this. The GTE is an aerodynamic nightmare (albeit beautiful),. Yes it has guite some downforce too, but very high drag levels, leading to the lowest top speed of any Evora (other than the N/A).

 

[scotty435]

52 minutes ago, Gashead1105 said:

spec? discount?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

That's 2  that I know  that's been ordered only 4 left, what a fantastic car your going to have

[Gashead1105]

Wish I had one on order but I need to get my house done. Maybe in a few years time I will be ordering the run out GT500!!

[Bravo73]

51 minutes ago, NedaSay said:

How long until some S1 owners upgrade their front bumper to the 430 design?

I suspect that Mr Win Ace is busy scribbling his design as we speak. The OEM Lotus part will be prohibitively expensive (I'm guessing £10k+). 

 

[TheKevlarKid]

53 minutes ago, TBD said:

In comparison to the GTE you really have to love the aero on the 430. They really seem to have done quite some work on this. The GTE is an aerodynamic nightmare (albeit beautiful),. Yes it has guite some downforce too, but very high drag levels, leading to the lowest top speed of any Evora (other than the N/A).

 

Doesn't seem to be slowing the Stratton boys car down too much wearing the GTE bodywork!!

It is a shame they have completely eradicated the GT350/GTe from the lotus memory banks, it's only been two years ago! Silly really because everyone knows the cars exist and it's only going to get brought up time and time again as comparison between the two. The GTE'S were a bargain to be fair at 85k, these are going to be 120k when you've spec'd it up...

I really do like it, the agrresion the evora should have always had, but looking at the car and spec, I would have personally called it the 'Cup' model rather than the 'GT'. It's the sportiest Evora we've seen so far with all the aero and lightweight gubbins and for the first time ever the ability to spec a harness and harness bar... That's of course if you think they're worth 4k!! Jeezus wept, I'd expect a rear half cage for that, sorry but come on Lotus, 4k is takin the pee!!

Me, I'd of left the GT monika for the wide body, GT (grand tourer) theyre going to eventually end up doing!!

Lol at Bravo, I bet we end up seeing a win ace bumper on a car before the first official customer car is delivered!!

[NedaSay]

So @Bibs you had some talk time with JMG you said, I'm sure the GT430 was not the only topic of your conversation... Care to share with us?

[purso]

I want one!!!

[Bravo73]

You'd better be quick. At least 4 of the UK's allocation of 6 have already been sold (according to t'other thread). 

[LF1]

I suspect the Cup monkier was not used because that will be following along with a Race. There's insulation, carpet and other stuff there just crying to be ripped out for those editions. 

[NedaSay]

That is very possible indeed, this car has a lot of creature comfort (adjustable seats and AC) it's part GT part track car, a Cup would probably be all track but I don't think we need to see if for the next two years...

However the Race version should come sooner than later this car begs to be put in a race. I really hope somebody at Lotus can plead a case for the company going back to racing with the new owners. 

 

[Mark030358]

6 hours ago, Bibs said:

The 'optional' Sparco's are beautifully trimmed and now include a solution to the creaking issue. No more creaking! 

So does that mean there are fixes for all the cars they sold with seats that aren't fit for purpose? Especially the ones that are around 6 weeks old.... I bloody hope so!!

[DaveC72]

Been out for most of the afternoon.  Finally seen the price and I can't help feeling that it's exceptional value for money.  Out of my price bracket, sadly.

The engineering looks top notch and is a nice iteration on the, now 18 month old, 410.

The aero without drag seems to be on another level - I started looking at the maths and promptly went boss-eyed.   Lotus "magic" indeed.

Styling hits the right notes for me at least, and I think the Aero without the wing would look a bit daft imho.

They really have wrung every ounce out of the engine and transmission (standing by for Komo-Tec flaming)  - at least according to the guru on such things @NedaSay...

Attention to detail inside looks spot on.

3-11 pace around the test track is ridiculously impressive.

Well played Lotus, well played.

[Stirling_Villeneuve]

It's a stunner but I'm wondering how much of the styling of this car and the carbon options will be applied to the forthcoming Targa, or perhaps available from the Lotus Exclusive bespoke end of things? 

All the looks, topless and with daily creature comforts anyone??

[NedaSay]

Interesting question. 

I don't know if Lotus will want to sell the new bumpers to current 400 and 410 owners as upgrades but I'm pretty sure as it as been mentioned that Win Ace is probably already working on its own iteration of these parts made out of GRP instead of carbon.

[Sizona]

I'm really happy to have my GTE and would not sell it. I still think it is best looking Lotus, have to say though this new 430 also looks gorgeous, very purposeful and racy, expect in brighter colours even better. I even like the rear wing!

As others have already said. Well done Lotus.

[C8RKH]

7 hours ago, DaveC72 said:

I know @C8RKH will hate it...

...but in that colour.  Want. So. Badly.
 

Nothing to hate here from  my point of view, even in that colour!  Stunning piece of machinery and just looks fabulous.  I'm not a fan of the extra wing - if that could be removed for road use and then put back for track use I think it would be my perfect car.

I love the looks. I also love what lotus are doing here. I really am hoping that the intelligent drivers out there will see beyond the hype and actually think about what lotus is doing and what Lotus stands for:

• Excellent driver feedback - proper manuals with proper steering, well sorted chassis and superb balance from the suspension with mechanical grip a priority
• No gimmicks - just good, honest engineering gains through the exploitation of years of racing history, pedigree and experience
• Dynamics and feel priorities over gizmo's and electronics - cars that reward you - the more you develop your skill the more the car opens up to you
• Reasonable buying and running costs and the ability to actually buy the limited halo models

This is a better car than i was hoping for. it really is a piece of work to my eyes and I'm really pleased for Lotus. I just hope that they continue to move on from here but do not forget their loyal fan base by focusing too much on the high end.

Bravo lotus. Wonderful.  I'm in lust.

 

 

 

[C8RKH]

7 hours ago, Cypriot said:

is just me that thinks that although this car looks ace, I prefer the clean lines of the 410?

I still prefer the cleaner lines of the S1!

[geartox]

beautiful car, congratulations to Lotus ! 

From a personal point of view sequential gearbox is mandatory for my next car.

 

[cbaileyuk]

Read the 'exceptional value' comment above. Would someone dress the bones of that comment with a little meat for me? Not 'its cheaper than a GT3 but explain the statement in isolation. I just don't see how this is exceptional value at all. Nice looker as always though.

[Crouchy]

The engineering sounds good and the carbon parts look great but It just doesn't tempt me to open the wallet.

[C8RKH]

5 hours ago, LotusHammer said:

112k including VAT for all that expertise and performance is a bloody bargain. 

Look at this back to back comparison with the Ferrari F430 when it was launched back in 2004 the specs where:  

£119,500 launch price in the UK

483 bhp

1517kg curb weight

0-62 in 3.9 seconds

196 mph top speed

 

Makes the GT430 look like a bargain to me:

£112,500 launch price in the UK some 13 years later (the RPI adjusted equivalent for the F430 is £172,000)

430 bhp

1258kg curb weight

0-62 in 3.7 seconds

190 mph top speed

What is there not too like as I guarantee the GT430 will leave behind the F430 on the track.

Well done Lotus! A relative bargain and much more exclusive and usable than any F430.

[The Pits]

Picked a terrible day to take the kids to Legoland.

What have I missed?

Are there any left?

[NedaSay]

3 minutes ago, The Pits said:

Picked a terrible day to take the kids to Legoland.

What have I missed?

Are there any left?

I was wondering where you were? What did you think about the car ?

Edited July 20, 2017 by NedaSay

[The Pits]

The most obvious question is why wasn't it called an Evora 430 Cup? Everything about it suggests it was done by the same crowd who did the 380 Cup, wheel arch vents, central wiper, f-off carbon rear wing and the rest.

My best guess is that they are planning another 4?? Cup, maybe even a 430 Cup so they can't have two many versions of the Cup beginning with a 4. Maybe they'll never do an Evora Cup but I'll wager there will be an Exige 4?? Cup before 2019. 

[The Pits]

Haven't finished the press release yet but it looks amazing. Breathtaking. Better integrated than I had imagined. I don't miss canards or the wide body as much as I thought I might. Wing is gloriously OTT but looks effective and authentically motorsport enough to get away with it, just.

The whole car is a massive two fingers to Porsche, Chris Harris and the whole Porsche GT scene which I absolutely love. Audacious in the extreme. Shades of the Turbo Esprit going on sale at £21k in 1980, more than the Ferrari 308 at the time. If it can whip the new GT3's fat backside with 70bhp less that would be just a magnificent achievement. That will be very hard to achieve not least because Porsche will make it their business to prevent that, through fair means and foul. In any event it's a massive 'if', the gen 2 GT3 has even got Porsche wondering if they've over done it. Yes for anyone not on their loathsome 'preferred customer' list it will cost a whole lot more than £112k but it looks like the Evora will be gone in 60 seconds too, so they can't use the 'at least it's available' card. For the PR story to have a happy ending the GT430 must beat the gen 2 GT3. Getting close to it would be a sizeable achievement in reality but then the story goes, '2 blokes in a Norfolk shed have a go at the GT3, do alright'. This time Project Eddie the Eagle needs to bring home the gold medal and just shut everyone up.

All the wheels seem to be at extra cost, what wheels do you get for the base price?

Love so much about this car. Was fearing it would be over £100k. Was steeling myself for £98k basic. £112k will take some adjusting to. Especially when it's done nothing to dent my enthusiasm for the Sport 410. Then again if the numbers of RHD really are that tiny it should hold its value better than a 410...

By the time I get my head around it all they'll all be gone. Probably just as well!