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It's $1bn to build your own engine from blank sheet to showroom nowadays, I'm not sure Lotus are quite there yet and I, for one, forgive them for that! 

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Understood. For absolute clarity, I'm a current and previous Lotus owner and will likely always have one in the fleet but at this level (100+) my money will go elsewhere and a lesser amount spent on something lotus to keep attached to the brand.

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32 minutes ago, cbaileyuk said:

I clearly have a different view. You've ducked over the powerplant comment by telling me a Camry block has more performance, 13 years henceforth from the comparitor you offered. Surely you can't be comparing the two still? 

I currently drive a 350 after many Lotus but this current direction of pricing has entered a cut throat and dangerous sector.

Nope. You have miss read me. What I have said is that for cheaper than the original launch price of an F430 13 years ago Lotus has made a CAR with better performance.

When you factor in the rpi increase of that original 2004 price to £170k in todays equivalent, then to me I believe what Lotus has done, with the resources it has available to it, is remarkable, and in my OPINION the CAR is much much better than the F430.

You are fixated on the engine, I am looking T the whole package as a car and how it performs for the price.

On spec - the two are close. All respect to what Ferrari did with the F430, but I know where my £112k would go today and it would not be on a 12 year old F430 - cheapest on Autotrader right now £95k for a 23k mile example, next cheapest £117k. And let's not even talk about the difference in maintenance bills.

I'm happy with my comparison and view. I respect yours.

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

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Pretty much any Fezza will cost you at least £3k pa in maintenance, assuming nothing goes wrong. Ownership cost on a GT430 would be pennies in comparison, it is a Toyota engine after all! 

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1 hour ago, Hellers said:

Well it's been quite a day hasn't it?! 

Fell asleep and missed the 'promised' 00:01 release from @Bibs 

Woken by a cocker spaniel's nose in my face at 8am (not a euphemism). What, no release?? 

Had a deadline to show a new very senior employee around the plant at 11am before their official start on Monday. Nothing at 8.30.. 9... 9.30... teased with Lotus biscuit pics (who knew they existed) until well gone 10.30...

Article appears at 11-ish a.m. on the Lotus website as I'm going up in the lift, already 5-ish minutes late eek.. and then disappears again shortly just when I excuse myself for a comfort break, gah! New important person wonders what I'm up to and I'm torn whether to tell her or as I did, I just said I'd had a few beers and a dodgy ruby murray the night before, but hey as I'm the owner I think I got away with it...

God it's a beautiful motor and having only just bought my first ever (brand new too) Lotus two weeks ago tomorrow (a mighty-minnow Elise 250 SE) I feel that one day something like this 'could' be in reach. Can't wait to see vids etc.

Now I know why Ian Parkin at Murray's would like to keep in touch with me. 

Well done Lotus for a focussed and yet so well-resolved package. That's a very difficult thing to carry off. Bravo!

Well said Ian, one of the best and I am sure from the heart comments all day long, Bravo to you and Lotus 

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I like the car. The only unresolved matter in my head - did they hire a recent victim of the real estate slowdown from Foxtons to write that press release on the website? Sounds remarkably like "superbly presented garden flat offering an exceptional £2.5m pied a terre in central London"...

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3 minutes ago, vd9 said:

I like the car. The only unresolved matter in my head - did they hire a recent victim of the real estate slowdown from Foxtons to write that press release on the website? Sounds remarkably like "superbly presented garden flat offering an exceptional £2.5m pied a terre in central London"...

Well they are looking for a new marketing manager if you know somebody who could the job better ...

http://careers.lotuscars.com/Lotus/Vacancies/VacancyDetails.asp?VacancyID=1486

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Bet you anything the Evora GT430 would be slower with a Ferrari F430 V8 in it! Ferrari claimed 30bhp just from the exhaust in the F355! The 375bhp claim for that engine wasn't horsepower, it was horsesh*t!

I'll take a 430bhp Toyota engine any day. It helps that it might actually make 430bhp for a start.

See, you've got me at it now! :wallbash:Sorry Scotty!

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4 minutes ago, NedaSay said:

Well they are looking for a new marketing manager if you know somebody who could the job better ...

http://careers.lotuscars.com/Lotus/Vacancies/VacancyDetails.asp?VacancyID=1486

That role has been filled now :)

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I am going to agree with some people on here that the price is hard to swallow. At £120k when specced, you can get some serious metal. Forget a gt3, you are in Audi R8 v10+ territory. You are also just a few grand short of getting into a mclaren 540c. Yes, they aren't track focused like the gt430, but then again they are in a totally different league. just to be clear, I love the evora, and I am actually swapping my porker for a lovely evora 400 tomorrow, and I couldn't be more excited! But playing in the £120k market is not a forgiving market. but what do I know? apparently they are almost all sold!

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There are only a couple of McLaren's faster than this car, and you'll be spending and awful lot more money (and getting an awful ownership experience) to own one. 

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:lol: 

Now that's a job I'd love, but I like where I am :)

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I m sure this car as took us all by surprise, I did not expect it to be this good and even the people that say a lot of negatives on here are saying good things about it, let's just hope this is just start of great things to come 

 

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7 hours ago, The Pits said:

The most obvious question is why wasn't it called an Evora 430 Cup? Everything about it suggests it was done by the same crowd who did the 380 Cup, wheel arch vents, central wiper, f-off carbon rear wing and the rest.

My best guess is that they are planning another 4?? Cup, maybe even a 430 Cup so they can't have two many versions of the Cup beginning with a 4. Maybe they'll never do an Evora Cup but I'll wager there will be an Exige 4?? Cup before 2019. 

Do you think JMG and his staff are planning a more extreme car - which a Cup version would necesarily be ? 

If we all noticed that the GT430 has left some fat on (sound deadening,  air conditionning...) There won't be much to work with powertrain wise with the current package. I can almost assure that they left little to nothing on that package if they are to keep this package together.

I always favoured the GT moniker for the top spec Evora cause for me Cup cars are eligible for the Lotus Cup Series, which I still feel the Evora should not due to the power advantage, I know it doesn't work like that but I really liked the Type 124 plan and would prefer to see Evoras racing in GT while the Exiges and Elises do race in Cup. 

 

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