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Some stunning pictures of some stunning cars here.

I too would love to see more FAIR comparisons of a Lotus (either Exige or Evora) against a Porsche/Aston and the new TVR when it comes out, at relatively "neutral" ground.

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6 hours ago, Snoopy1969 said:

Lovely green, is that the olive green showed by @The Pits earlier in this thread on an exige? This color is a nice contrat to the black carbon parts in my eyes

looks like the shade i sotted being built a couple of weeks back  so id say yes

 

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I'm not in the market BUT... I spotted a couple of Lotus dealers offering 430 build slots offered on Pistonheads, it got me wondering whether most dealers secured their own slot as opposed to waiting for firm customer orders? Either way they're a good opportunity for someone.

Currently having an illicit affair with another marque, be back in the fold one day... B-)

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

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I don't believe anyone would buy an Evora GT430, or any Lotus for that matter, based on straight line performance. You can always go faster for less money in straight line if that's your thing.

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As long as this does not take us back to 'ring times being all important for some ;)

 

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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Serious praise from American motoring press, too. Enjoy, you lucky bastards! :wub:

If I drive one Lotus in a year, that car pretty much automatically makes it on my list of favorites. But the Evora GT430 isn't just my favorite car I've driven this year, it might be the favorite I've driven any year. It's better and more characterful than a 911 GT3, plus it's the rare car that talks to you and wants you involved in the experience. 

One of the greats.

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Imagine the cries of jingoism and bias if s Britis journalist wrote that. None would dare to over here, even if that was their opinion. Nice to read all the same, I’d love to see the car do well in the US, they’ve been denied too many of the more exciting recent Lotus cars over there. I’m hoping the GT430 will start to make up for that. Seems like there’s more respect and admiration for the Lotus brand over there.

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Totally agree @The Pits. The US seem to be less "stuck up" and admire the brand. Even a small amount of success in the US will make a tremendous difference to Lotus. The US also has some fine open, non busy roads to enjoy Lotus trade mark handling on too and some wonderful scenic photo opportunities.

Jeez, you even get flamed on here for supporting the brand against some others :blobfire::driving::harhar:

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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2 hours ago, C8RKH said:

Totally agree @The Pits. The US seem to be less "stuck up" and admire the brand. Even a small amount of success in the US will make a tremendous difference to Lotus.

Lotus is still seen as one of the 'exotic' marques in the US, the name still carries a lot of respect/weight...  neither of which are the right words but you get the idea! 

Currently having an illicit affair with another marque, be back in the fold one day... B-)

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Perhaps one or two of our American members can comment about the how Lotus is perceived out there. I'm guessing Mario Andretti's 1978 world championship has something to do with it. I don't believe an American driver has won the F1 title since. Jim Clark's achievements at the Indy 500 would certainly have won them some respect. Perhaps there's a notion that we don't have that is generally positive towards British made sports cars but most of the video reviews from the US seem to take a pop at British electronics and general questions over reliability, so not sure about that one. Maybe it's just how an Elise might feel if when your reference point is a big V8 muscle car. Like a toy car for the first few miles I imagine then something like a revelation shortly after!

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I do run into some people who have no idea what a Lotus is, but I think the general public in the U.S. still considers them an exotic sports car, mainly because they are very rare and look exotic.

At car shows I have had some people make fun of Lotus for its reliability using the Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious joke. I tell them that I haven't had any major issues with any Lotus I have owned.

In the end though, IMO the stereotype is absolutely true about Americans. They are HP obsessed. So while my car gets a lot of attention, once they learn how much HP it has many lose interest quickly. To some people its the only number that matters. I am honestly so tired of constantly hearing about Hellcats at car shows I go to.

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On 29/12/2017 at 12:33, C8RKH said:

This  number is a made up one based on some formula (i assume using weight and horsepower) not tests so I would not give it too much credit anyway. It looks it is meaningfully lower number in real life.

But as said by others, this is not a straight line exercise, engine for straight line, big wings for corner and lightness for everywhere!

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I hate to have to disagree.  To the vast majority of the motoring public in USA, Lotus is a non-entity: a brand they have heard of, but probably don’t know still sells cars in the US market. 

A limited production run of 60 430 GTs and 60 430 Sports is not likely to change things one bit.  

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Your average UK Joe probably doesn’t know or care much about Lotus either. Even among car ‘enthusiasts’ Lotus is still a left field choice, very few sports car buyers have the Evora on their consideration list, it remains firmly under the radar. However, among those in the US who do know what a Lotus is, it would appear that the brand is held in generally high regard. US Lotus sites are awash with longing for Lotus to bring V6 Exiges Stateside, as previously written I hope the GT430 will go some way to make up for that. At least the fastest, most extreme Evora will make it over there at some point hopefully.

Lamborghinis were imported into the US in tiny numbers for many years but the impact they seem to have made is considerable, despite the average joes pointing at them and saying ‘Ferrari!’.

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Honestly Lotus really needs a flagship car. They need a new Esprit. Its a car some people still know from some 70s - 90s pop culture, even if it doesn't have the clout of the others. I really hope Lotus continues with having lower cost cars like the Elise, mid range like the Evora, but IMO they need a higher end car that walks the walk and talks the talk. They need something that really wows the public in some way. Not only to bring attention to their current line, but for their SUV line. You want people to buy Lotus SUVs you got to show them Lotus makes something people know and desire. Like most car brands maybe they wouldn't make much or anything on the Esprit, but hopefully maybe you can make that up in your Elise and SUV sales.

I don't know, I hope Geely does something with the brand for once. Them making an SUV, as questionable as it may seem to some of us, also might be a good sign that they plan on taking this serious.

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Very fair points there but wait until you see the GT430. It has presence and wow factor to spare.

I'm torn on a new Esprit. I still think that the Elise is ultimately the better representation of the Lotus philosophy than the Esprit ever was. If they do a new Esprit it has to be ground breaking in some way, not just another 'me too' junior supercar like the Dany Bahar concept. I'm confident that Russell Carr on current form could do something that could make me eat my words but if the Bahar car was all we got then an uber Evora appeals more to me at this time.

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Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to be wrong about the impact of the 430 in the US market.  There is a lot of speculation here with limited production cars and I can easily see the small number of 430s available here end up in car collections and never see much of the light of day, much less being driven on the street.  A shame, but a VERY likely result

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