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Amazing car. Must feel like the only one in Germany!

You will see a whole new side to your nice new car once it has been run-in. A side that's not nice at all! :devil:

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Is there any register for the GT430 like the one for GTE?

It's à really nice looking, they did a great job!

Is the part behind the front wheel is protected? 


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Yes that panel comes with PPF from the factory.

Lotus also fit PPF to the sills, the lower edge of the doors, the whole of the panel in front of the rear wheels (then add the shark fin black stone protection on top) they also put PPF on the trailing edge of the rear wheel arch and more on the rear of the car.

I had extra PPF put over the whole car (except for the doors, rear engine cover and rear 3/4 panels). It definitely needs it!

I thought the front wheel arch vents would throw stones everywhere but actually the design does a good job of preventing that.

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19 minutes ago, Babas89 said:

Is there any register for the GT430 like the one for GTE?

Nearly:

 

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Thanks @The Pits !

OK, I should present mine soon whe' I'll keep it :lol:


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6 hours ago, ricvx said:

GT430 at Lotus Leven Edinburgh. They've got a stunning GT410 in red too!

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Stunning 430, burnt orange the colour that looks amazing on any Lotus.

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23 hours ago, The Pits said:

Congratulations. I look forward to the photos.👍

Yes I quite like the new diffuser on the GT410 Sport too. Might be worth asking if they’ll fit one to a GT430 but I wouldn’t be too disappointed if they said no. Car looks amazing at the rear either way.

The GT410 rear Diffuser is Aluminium, whereas the one on the GT430 come in Carbon fiber, no? So it should be lighter.

Do u have any data abt weight difference?

I already asked my dealer to check on options.

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Actually the rear diffuser itself is plastic on the GT430 but the diffuser surround is carbon. The GT410 has a slightly bigger aluminium diffuser surrounded by plastic! I doubt there’s any significant weight difference. GT430 Sport with that diffuser makes 100kg of downforce compared to the GT410’s 96kg according to Lotus but the difference can be accounted for by the higher top speed. At least we know they’re both working!

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8 hours ago, Hakim0v said:

The GT410 rear Diffuser is Aluminium, whereas the one on the GT430 come in Carbon fiber, no? So it should be lighter.

Do u have any data abt weight difference?

I already asked my dealer to check on options.

Have a pee before you go out for a drive and that will make as much difference as the any potential weight difference.

Also, aluminium doesn't burn!


Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!        

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Anyone in the midlands or should I say in the UK ,this is a two day opportunity not to be missed, the chance to drive the only demo 430 in the Uk, with Scott Walker, Lotus Uk sales manager, thanks to Central Lotus. Let's hope for a good turnout.https://www.midlandslotus.co.uk/forum/topic/66875-april-13th-14th/?tab=comments#comment-305413

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1 hour ago, scotty435 said:

Anyone in the midlands or should I say in the UK ,this is a two day opportunity not to be missed

:secret:Bell & Colvill did something similar last weekend: 

 

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Yes similar, just saying this is a good opportunity for people in the midlands and Scott walker is going to be there to answer everyone's questions, not a bad thing I am sure?

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9 hours ago, scotty435 said:

Anyone in the midlands or should I say in the UK ,this is a two day opportunity not to be missed, the chance to drive the only demo 430 in the Uk, with Scott Walker, Lotus Uk sales manager, thanks to Central Lotus. Let's hope for a good turnout.https://www.midlandslotus.co.uk/forum/topic/66875-april-13th-14th/?tab=comments#comment-305413

Perhaps you need to start looking in the EMEG area of TLF for upto date news!


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Proud to drive and own a true British supercar the Evora GT430

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So......

after being (over) charged for my “premium” Apple play/ DAB infotainment system..... it turns out that Lotus do not fit it with a DAB arial.

i collected the car in December and have so far had an absolute blast in it. The only point to note was that no matter how hard I tried and what instructions I read in the manual I couldn’t get any Digital stations stored on my stereo. Not to worry - clearly doing something wrong I thought - I’ll get it fixed at its run-in service.

so I’ve just received a phone call from a (very embarrassed service manager and a very embarrassed salesman) who have confirmed that Neil Turner has advised them that the car does not come with a DAB arial - and “should the customer wish to enjoy digital stations then they should make provisions to fit their own arial”.

Staggered beyond belief just doesn’t even come close to how I feel and how the guys at Edinburgh felt too. I’m actually embarrassed for Lotus right now.

if I bought a £7k Kia with a DAB radio I wouldn’t expect to have to fit my own arial. If I buy a £120k Lotus I certainly wouldn’t. On the one hand Lotus hope to spunk all over Porsche.... but when they pull stunts like this it kind of makes the house of cards fall down.

Now I know what many of you will say. No need for a stereo. And I agree.... but where one has been specced and fitted.... it should do its job without question. I ordered the stereo after discussing it with HQ during my 430 factory tour. “To compete with the other upmarket options, we wanted to offer customers a more premium stereo... folks expect DAB and Appleplay nowadays so it’s good to offer it” (paraphrased).

so it’s now with HQ to sort out as I don’t accept Neil’s comments. I won’t accept anything else other than a functioning DAB stereo - because that’s what I have paid for. The trouble is... I know that getting a good digital signal from an aluminium/ fibre body can be really difficult. I only ordered the upgrade because I had assumed that Lotus had considered this. I now fear that Edinburgh will be tasked with coming up with their own bodged solution which will involve removal of trim and dashboard parts to get the arial in. This horrifies me and just shouldn’t have to happen on a high spec Evora. Hell - it shouldn’t have to happen on any new car!

Despite this the car is amazing and a joy to have, but the official response I’ve had with this problem has highlighted that Lotus have a very very long journey to go with regards to customer care/ after sales.

With Murray Lotus now becoming Leven Cars (who also sell Aston Martin) it probably means that my long Lotus journey will finally come to an end with this car come it’s time to replace because I just don’t see enough of a desire for Lotus to step up in every single part of their business to become a car seller of choice for anything but the diehards. 

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The trouble is that as customers have moved up the financial ladder, Lotus haven't followed with their delivery, in some areas. Where Lotus excel is the less expensive cars and this they do very well indeed. I can totally see your frustration and hope in the future Lotus can inject what is special about their cars into an improved product with the help of Geely.

For now I'll just have to pat myself on the back for not speccing an over priced radio that doesn't work and get on with enjoying how good the driving dynamics are.

 

Trevor.


I'll get around to it at some point.

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13 minutes ago, SFO said:

Or Lotus can refund the cost of the infotainment system 

But then I don’t have DAB which is what I asked for? 🤔

25 minutes ago, Trevsked said:

The trouble is that as customers have moved up the financial ladder, Lotus haven't followed with their delivery, in some areas. Where Lotus excel is the less expensive cars and this they do very well indeed. I can totally see your frustration and hope in the future Lotus can inject what is special about their cars into an improved product with the help of Geely.

For now I'll just have to pat myself on the back for not speccing an over priced radio that doesn't work and get on with enjoying how good the driving dynamics are.

 

Trevor.

Oh I completely agree that there is much to love. But please - don’t sell anything to anybody if you don’t know it will work.

there is a principal there which st this price is unforgivable. 

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That is mildly shocking (and frankly embarrassing) from Lotus. 

However, @anthonyyule, I wouldn’t bother to install a dedicated DAB aerial. Install one of these FM to digital converters instead: http://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/Kinetic_DAA-7001_aerial_converter_-_splitter.html It works just as well as a separate aerial and is essentially only an extra couple of wires behind the head unit. 

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20 minutes ago, anthonyyule said:

But then I don’t have DAB which is what I asked for? 🤔

I rather that than having the car dismantled 

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I'm with Anthony. It's what has always held Lotus back. Poor detail and understanding of customer expectations (surely a radio should work if fitted?) and poorer customer response. I though it had changed but clearly the 'old' ways survive.

Not shocked, but hugely disappointed.

 

 

 

 

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Sorry, no idea what’s involved with installing a DAB aerial or why Lotus didn’t fit one. Can’t you get access to most digital stations via Apple car play? Maybe they thought that’s how it worked!

Some Japanese cars I’ve owned had very subtle aerials stuck onto the windscreen, might be an easier fix?

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To be honest.. my post could have been whinging about a paint defect or a non-sticky decal or some loose trim ... or a non-fitted arial.

fact is - none of this should be my problem to fix. That’s what a warranty is for. I wouldn’t expect to have had the same response from Mini/ Volvo/ Fiat camper van for any of the other vehicles we own. 

Why then should I just expect it to be ok from Lotus? It’s not - not for this money anyway, or for any Lotus for that matter because they are all expensive. 

Whatever solution is offered - be it a refund or a subtle modification or a replacement stereo.... that’s their call to propose.... but it needs to be a considered and professional response which they believe will meet the customers expectations. It shouldn’t simply be a “shrugged shoulder” ?

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11 minutes ago, The Pits said:

Some Japanese cars I’ve owned had very subtle aerials stuck onto the windscreen, might be an easier fix?

A dedicated DAB aerial is no longer needed. A FM to digital converter (which I linked to above) is a much cleaner and easier solution. 

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10 minutes ago, The Pits said:

Sorry, no idea what’s involved with installing a DAB aerial or why Lotus didn’t fit one. Can’t you get access to most digital stations via Apple car play? Maybe they thought that’s how it worked!

Some Japanese cars I’ve owned had very subtle aerials stuck onto the windscreen, might be an easier fix?

Most probably they can access the rear of the head unit by pulling it out of the dash - so they can definitely get to that end. I believe the other end needs to be properly earthed though for best results. 

Windscreen solution could work too.... 

either way I won’t be doing the work and it needs to be carried out to an OEM standard so I don’t really care as long as it works/ nothing is damaged when fitting it/ and it doesn’t cost me any money

Just now, Bravo73 said:

A dedicated DAB aerial is no longer needed. A FM to digital converter (which I linked to above) is a much cleaner and easier solution. 

But aren’t the results are patchy? 

Like I say - this is a manufacturer/ Lotus HQ problem to solve.... I’ve fitted plenty of stereos in the past but don’t want to make this one my problem. 

Hell I looked into all of this when I fitted my own stereo to my Cup. But I expected to do that because my car came with no stereo and I decided further down the line I wanted one. I bought a DAB and in the end couldn’t find a suitable place to put the arial without really getting in behind trim which I didn’t want to disrupt so I left it. 

So I totally buy into having to roll up my sleeves and fit parts..... but not when you have a sales invoice which shows that you paid Lotus to do it for you!

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