Evora GT410 Sport launched

[Barrykearley]

We need upskirt pics the lot - pull your finger out and get em on here

[Bibs]

2 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

Is there a price list anywhere for the GT410 and the options

https://www.thelotusforums.com/latest-news/lotus-cars-news/lotus-evora-gt410-sport-revealed/

[C8RKH]

Perfect. Thank you. Interior pictures please. Come on now. Chop chop......!

[The Pits]

Congrats chief. Looks flipping stunning. Can’t wait to see it. Weather’s shown up for you too.

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

Left hooker?

[NedaSay]

@Bibs looks like a pretty nice spec. Are these the carbon SPX seats? Hard to believe that this design is almost 10 years.

Uh what will happen to this car when you are done playing with it? 

[Bruss]

1 hour ago, NedaSay said:

@Bibs looks like a pretty nice spec. Are these the carbon SPX seats? Hard to believe that this design is almost 10 years.

Uh what will happen to this car when you are done playing with it? 

Left hooker, he'll have to sell it cheap to some deserving forum member (in France) 

[NedaSay]

^^^ Or Canada, I don't really see myself moving back to Paris, the city would drive me insane. Then there is a word to be said for the Atlantic coast indeed.

[PAR]

How does it compare to the 400 and 410 inside?

Does it look like a 400 when 2+2 and a 410 when in 2+0?

I wonder what the plan is for the 400. I find that the 400 is a great entry price and would be a shame to get it to disappear but if they update the body like they did from the 430 to the 410, it will be quite redundant...

mynpersonal feel is that there is space for cars between 300 and 500bhp as proven by a certain car maker but current volume won’t make it easy to keep a wide range.

 

i am wondering how sales in the US have been going considering it is the only model available there so wide range more justified there.

[C8RKH]

400 with the new nose and either the new back bumper or current at around £75k plus options with standard +2

GT410 at £85k with +2 at extra cost

GT430's starting at £110k (I think for) with no +2 or maybe with extra cost

I'd have thought that would keep everyone happy.

Specc'ed up my Gt410 and it would be almost bang on £100k but what a car it would be.......  Just need the balls to do it - never ever spent anywhere near that on a car before and finding it hard to justify but christ have Lotus made it hard. I do think that even at £100k the GT410 (in my preferred spec) is a fair and good price for a lot of car.

[Bruss]

Won't they just drop the 400 all together if they are thinking of putting the new body panels on? New 400 or 410, no difference.

Edited February 18, 2018 by Bruss

[Bravo73]

2 hours ago, PAR said:

i am wondering how sales in the US have been going considering it is the only model available there so wide range more justified there.

Judging by the number of cars that either remain unsold or heavily discounted, not well unfortunately:

 

[PAR]

20 minutes ago, Bruss said:

Won't they just drop the 400 all together if they are thinking of putting the new body panels on? New 400 or 410, no difference.

If you get a 2+2 the gt410 should get you 10bhp more and potentially 100kgs less. Assuming the 400 keep the old tail gate, this would be slightly easier usage. I personally prefer the 400 tailgate although it does cost performance wise.

maybe if they go for an update of the 400 with the new bumper, they could increase slightly the gap by making 395 and get back below the 225g emission tax band.

Edited February 18, 2018 by PAR

[C8RKH]

20 hours ago, Bruss said:

Won't they just drop the 400 all together if they are thinking of putting the new body panels on? New 400 or 410, no difference.

I'd like to see them keep the 400 as a "softer" car, with it's +2 configuration, to the GT cars.

Not everyone will want the more focused GT spec.  Just an opinion and can see where you are coming from.  I also think that if they could sell the 400 at say £70k then that would be a good price point for them.

[Breeze]

I enjoy my Evora as a GT, It's superb at long distance trips, driving around Europe. I didn't want a track focused car, and I suspect I'm not alone in that.  My 365 Whp Elise S1 was very track focused, went like hell, was great fun...in small doses. It was however too hard core to use as an everyday road car. I wish I'd had the suspension much more road orientated for example. The people who wish to have a track focused car are a really tiny percent of the market, and I think it's not a good idea to focus the marketing too much towards them at the exclusion of everyone else. I'd guess that Porsche sell very few GT3's as a percent of total 911 sales.

I very much hope the new style bumpers will be put on the 400. I have never taken to the snow plough arrangement on the the 400, it seems completely at odds with the rest of the car's design. The new bumpers on the other hand, blend beautifully with the Evora design.   

[Bruss]

33 minutes ago, Breeze said:

I enjoy my Evora as a GT, It's superb at long distance trips, driving around Europe. I didn't want a track focused car, and I suspect I'm not alone in that.  My 365 Whp Elise S1 was very track focused, went like hell, was great fun...in small doses. It was however too hard core to use as an everyday road car. I wish I'd had the suspension much more road orientated for example. The people who wish to have a track focused car are a really tiny percent of the market, and I think it's not a good idea to focus the marketing too much towards them at the exclusion of everyone else. I'd guess that Porsche sell very few GT3's as a percent of total 911 sales.

Hopefully the Sport and the GT will show that difference as the range develops. 

I completely agree with your other comment re the snow plough  look. I was considering the Malaysian 410/430 copy bumpers for my S1 to save some weight but have decided that even they are too angular.  The Lotus 410/430 design just blends in so well with the original Lotus 'look'.

 

 

Edited February 19, 2018 by Bruss

[Breeze]

It's also a great shame, IMO, that Lotus have fallen into the mode of a base price for a stripped down car, and then charge as extras just about everything you'd ever need to make the thing a comfortable, useable everyday road car. Frankly Lotus...It sucks.  My S1 Sport Racer was a totally equipped car for the price paid, there were no extras. I love the look of the new 410, but by the time you add in everything I've already got on my S1 Sr, I'd be looking at a £100k car. I can't honestly see the value in it.!   ...... Also, I don't really like all the yellow Halfords tat on the inside, it would be much better if it matched the rest of the interior. Still, I guess it could be specked out for an extra ££££'s

[C8RKH]

The S1 SR was a fully optioned model like the Hethel 400. In base form the 400 has all you could want.

The 410 and 430 are more focused sports models that can be specified softer if I have got it right.

The 400 with a targa is what is needed now.

[hosscartwri]

3 hours ago, Breeze said:

Also, I don't really like all the yellow Halfords tat on the inside, it would be much better if it matched the rest of the interior. Still, I guess it could be specked out for an extra ££££'s

My understanding from specifying and ordering a GT410 Sport the other day is that you do not have to have the 'Halfords' look (which I believe could also be red - other colours may be available). My choice was to match these parts with the black/grey of the interior. I believe this is a no cost option. Incidentally, there are a number of other options, cost and no cost, which Lotus do not mention on their website but a good dealer should be able to advise on these.  

[DJW]

On 29/01/2018 at 20:37, cobwatch said:

Online today Autocar reviewed their top 10 best sports cars....911 won out of course, with the Evora third behind the F-type. A quite remarkable summary...the Evora is so compromised that it can only ever be a second or weekend car, and is then just too expensive, except for the handling obsessed purist.

 

Sold my V6S F Type within 3 weeks of purchase ..got bored......sold my 911 GT3 within 4 months , only fun at ballistic speeds.... sold my Evora 400 after a year , still loving the car, only because I basically got my money back plus moved to an 350.  Go figure my view on best marque  

[Bibs]

[auRouge]

On 19/02/2018 at 13:22, C8RKH said:

The S1 SR was a fully optioned model like the Hethel 400. 

That was a nice car... I'd still like one!

The SR that is... in S format witha Komotec 430 upgrade!

[C8RKH]

@Bibs come on, where are the interior pics, spec details etc....

[Bibs]

It would be a rubbish review if I wrote it at the beginning of my time with the car. It'll be up by the end of the week. 

[Barrykearley]

We don’t need a full on tell all explicit review just yet - just show us some mucky pictures