race 2 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 who know the specification or the right reference to order only the discs ap racing 332 ‘B’ Thickness - mm 32 ‘M’ P.C.D. Diameter - mm Mounting Hole Number 12 Mounting Fixing Type "Floating" Mounting Bobbin Part Number ‘C’ Eye Diameter - mm ‘D’ Inside Flange Diameter - mm ‘H’ Flange Thickness - mm Max Pad Depth Number of Vanes Air Gap - mm Weight - Kg Face Types Available regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arun_D 732 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I would recommend getting in touch with Dave @Seriouslylotus as he can supply the correct replacement rotors to suit the standard Lotus bells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheKevlarKid 581 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 You can't buy the AP discs seperately, theyre lotus specific sizes direct from AP to lotus. AP won't sell them to you, you have to buy a complete new bell and disc from lotus which comes already assembled (and cost a fortune). As said above, Dave at Seriously Lotus is the man to speak to for V6 brakes. He's had his own Alcon 2 peice discs and bells made to the correct sizes for V6 and sells them separately or as a kit (his alcon discs can be used with the Lotus bells). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 11,118 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheKevlarKid said: You can't buy the AP discs seperately, theyre lotus specific sizes direct from AP to lotus. AP won't sell them to you direct. If I knew the sizes/bolt pattern etc I could probably source them. I have worked in the past with the company that supply AP. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
TheKevlarKid 581 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 @BibsI very much doubt it Bibs, it was the same for the 308mm AP discs for the BBK on the S2 elise/exige/2-11. They were Lotus own design/sizes and impossible to source from AP direct. Even if you could 'find them', Daves will probably come in cheaper and he has them on the shelf ready to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 11,118 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I sourced the Esprit Sport350 rotors for around £500 a pair rather than £1800 from Lotus, even came in AP boxes but if Dave has it sorted then fair enough Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
rasasoufe 5 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 DBA also sells brake discs for the Exige V6: DBA52908-1LS, DBA52908-1RS https://www.dba.com.au/dba-5000-series-t3/ I'm let to beleave that they use the same bolt pattern as the oem discs. Maybe simplysportscars can confirm this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
race 2 Posted January 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 info is just to buy the dics without bells 332x32 12 holes PCD ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
race 2 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 nobody Know the PCD( entraxe )beetwen 2 holes opposit ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lo2zz 26 Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Looking to get new bells for the Exige V6 as current ones have gone a bit rusty. Car isn't tracked so don't need new callipers - looking at some of the alcon options seem to dictate new callipers. Presume the cheapest option is to just get new aluminium bells. What has everyone else done? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seriouslylotus 444 Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Lo2zz said: Looking to get new bells for the Exige V6 as current ones have gone a bit rusty. Car isn't tracked so don't need new callipers - looking at some of the alcon options seem to dictate new callipers. Presume the cheapest option is to just get new aluminium bells. What has everyone else done? New calipers NOT needed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lo2zz 26 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Thanks Dave I want to replace all the bells and discs all round on a std Exige V6 I'm thinking these for the front (with spacers) https://www.seriouslylotus.com/braking/295mm-alcon-brake-discs-and-fixed-alloy-bells and these for the rear which I presume are the matching set? https://www.seriouslylotus.com/braking/alcon-288mm-disc-with-nitron-fixed-bells How would the above compare to the OEM kit on an exige 380? Lastly ( I know I'm a pain with questions) but how much weight do the floating bells save like for like? Many thanks Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arun_D 732 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 @Lo2zz Those are for S2 Exige, Mike. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seriouslylotus 444 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Arun_D said: @Lo2zz Those are for S2 Exige, Mike. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lo2zz 26 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 11 hours ago, Arun_D said: @Lo2zz Those are for S2 Exige, Mike. Doh! Thanks for pointing that out. So from looking around there doesn't seem to be a way of just replacing the std bells with ones that won't rust without upgrading to floating/bigger? I don't want extra braking performance necessarily - just not rusting bells! Has anyone fitted something akin to this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arun_D 732 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 I beleive these satisfy your requirements? https://www.seriouslylotus.com/braking/brake-discs/exige-v6-alloy-belled-alcon-brake-discs-front https://www.seriouslylotus.com/braking/brake-discs/exige-v6-alcon-brake-discs-rear-with-serarate-bell-2piece 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 11,118 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Would it not be easier/cheaper to have yours media blasted and repainted? Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
Arun_D 732 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 @Lo2zz I have a spare pair of OEM front bells if you fancy doing the activity that @Bibs has suggested above, but keep your car on the road whilst they're being refinished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheKevlarKid 581 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Dont forget to use a new set of nuts and bolts when replacing dics/bells, they're a one shot affair. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seriouslylotus 444 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Bibs said: Would it not be easier/cheaper to have yours media blasted and repainted? Bells are anodized not painted, I would not painted them on any car of mine!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KJD 97 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 On 27/10/2018 at 13:40, Lo2zz said: Looking to get new bells for the Exige V6 as current ones have gone a bit rusty. How did you manage to get aluminium to rust? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lo2zz 26 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, KJD said: How did you manage to get aluminium to rust? I aways thought they were steel underneath and anodized as Dave suggests. It was always the case on the s2 and aluminium bells were the go to option to prevent rusting? Or maybe my memory isn't what it was?? Arun that is a very kind offer - let me see where I get to in my search for bells and I might give you a shout Thanks Mike 13 hours ago, Arun_D said: I beleive these satisfy your requirements? https://www.seriouslylotus.com/braking/brake-discs/exige-v6-alloy-belled-alcon-brake-discs-front https://www.seriouslylotus.com/braking/brake-discs/exige-v6-alcon-brake-discs-rear-with-serarate-bell-2piece Arun you da man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arun_D 732 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 @Lo2zz No problem Mike. Better than them continuing to just sit in my garage! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julius Jodelė 28 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 If the discs are used on the roads/streets, painting/powder coating will extend the life (especially if driven in the winter with the salt on the roads.) and make them look nicer... the one caveat is that 3 surfaces cannot be painted! Those are the surface that mates (fays) with the hub, the wheel and the disc. If the discs are floating discs, then the inside of the bobbin grooves need to be protected from the paint also. The reason for not painting those surfaces is that the wheel and/or disc will not run true if painted! And the bobbins won't slide in the grooves if painted. This is very important and a lot of work to prepare the bells for painting. A lot of places won't protect those surfaces before painting, so I'm guessing that is why Dave recommends against painting the bells. All that work costs money and in most cases not worth the return. But if you've got the skills or the connections, that is just another way of personalizing your car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KJD 97 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 hours ago, Lo2zz said: I aways thought they were steel underneath and anodized as Dave suggests. It was always the case on the s2 and aluminium bells were the go to option to prevent rusting? My point was that aluminium doesn’t rust, only steel rusts. And you can’t anodize steel, only aluminium. Steel you’ll have to paint. Apologies if I’m reminding you all of school physics class. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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