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I just thought of starting new thread as I had mentioned it in my other topic of 1st day of ownership.

had the car now for a week driven it twice and I have experienced a problem with handbrake operation.

my dealer has finally told me to take it nearest lotus service for them to assess it and if they deem it an issue then to drive it home and wait for them to agree a repair process with this lotus centre.

i contacted the nearest lotus service and they are going to collect the vehicle from me and then return it sensible approach I agree with.

must say disappointed with the dealership who sold me the car they seem adament the handbrake operation is safe and just down to lotus quirkiness which I just don’t agree however this is my first lotus so I am ignorant in that respect?

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Sorry to hear of the problems you have had, try not to let it get you down on your first Lotus - the Evora is a fab car.

A faulty handbrake is nothing to do with Lotus quirkiness - it should work, end of.  Hope you get it sorted soon.

I expect one of the mods will also move this to the tech threads :-)

 

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Cheers Nelly

i think my question is about how the dealership has approached this problem rather than a mechanically query.

i have only driven the car twice on a couple of school runs and I feel very anti climax about what should have been a dream come true period.

whilst the car is driveable it’s not very nice sat in heavy traffic and you feel you can’t pull hand brake very easily or quickly which holds up traffic behind you.

my partner who hasn’t even seen the car nevermind even tried it, will be genuinely put off driving the car, she was already concerned about child seat arrangement for my daughter but hopefully that’s now resolved.

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If the handbrake is intermittent, why are you even bothering to use it?

If parked, leave the car in gear. Try and avoid hill starts. If you can’t, either use a heel & toe technique (or hammer the clutch a bit). 

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I park on a few slopes regularly so I don’t feel confidence in leaving the car in case it rolls and yes I have to leave it in gear etc 

in about 9 months I would put the car through it’s MOT and I would be sure it fail so I am trying to resolve it now early on rather than months down the line !

yes on normal driving you can dispense with handbrake but you can’t avoid hills unless you live in east Anglia ?

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Who is your nearest lotus dealer

 

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Central in notts but having research unit 4 in burton o Trent is equal distance ? 

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I assume the two dealership will only deal between themselves as they may have some sort of recipracal agreement ? 

Anyway I am going with what the selling dealership have told me !

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Nope - a handbrake either works or doesn’t.

if it’s not working right and it’s rolling away - that’s a straight MOT failure. 2minutes on an mot roller will tell you all you need to know

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That my view !

dont understand what the fuss is about it should be a simple adjustment unless there’s something major which the dealership is aware and they are trying to get around or out of ? 

I have said to central lotus will you assess the handbrake as if your putting it through it’s. MOT ? 

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3 hours ago, Bravo73 said:

If the handbrake is intermittent, why are you even bothering to use it?

Apologies, I didn’t mean permanently. I just meant until it is fixed. Why bother applying it when you are in traffic, for example?

It sounds like the dealer is trying to get it fixed anyway. 

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9 hours ago, Cdm2018 said:

That my view !

dont understand what the fuss is about it should be a simple adjustment unless there’s something major which the dealership is aware and they are trying to get around or out of ? 

I have said to central lotus will you assess the handbrake as if your putting it through it’s. MOT ? 

I’m sure they will sort it chap and i very much doubt they will be trying to avoid anything. If you know a local garage - get them to take a quick look - it’ll be very very obvious. 

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It's a drum brake on the rear disk. 2 adjustments if I remember correctly. One is to adjust the drum shoe in the drum, the other is to adjust the cable tension. The non Lotus local garage may not understand that.

Take it to someone who knows what they are doing.

Original seller should sort this especially if it's a dealer.

 

 

 

 

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Trouble is they're a long way from the OP so they are sorting it via proxy with his more local dealer. :)

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11 minutes ago, Bibs said:

Trouble is they're a long way from the OP so they are sorting it via proxy with his more local dealer. :)

Sorry, I got the impression they are not sorting it but are palming him off (they all do that sir). If I'm wrong then ignore the following.

We should all be concerned about this if the OP's report is true. A dealer has sold by the letter of the law an MOT failure car, ie legally unsafe. This doesn't give Lotus or the car that I drive, an Evora, a very good rep. We need to get the Lotus image improved not knocked back by lazy responses to problems missed by the dealer, especially on here being the de facto Factory approved site

 

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Before everyone starts rushing for the pitchforks, it might be worth pointing out that every story always has two sides. And we have currently only heard one side of it. 

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whenever i buy a secondhand car i always insist on a new mot no matter how long there is left to run on the old one, nearly always something gets found even if only an advisory

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15 minutes ago, Bravo73 said:

Before everyone starts rushing for the pitchforks, it might be worth pointing out that every story always has two sides. And we have currently only heard on side of it. 

No pitchforks here. The handbrake either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't then the dealer shouldn't be talking of it being a Lotus quirk.

 

If the handbrake works and the OP just doesn't know how to use a handbrake, then I withdraw my comments.

( You know me well enough to understand that I'm not a pitchfork type of person)

 

 

 

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There’s two sides to every issue so I will try and be as balanced as I can !

the dealership have been helpful and polite but there has been an element of treating this with a liberal approach that a lotus is a quirky car so hence it’s build qualities will be wayward ?

the dealership thinks that if central lotus test it and it works then I am to live with the handbrake. However if the opposite is the case then the dealership needs to agree a cost first with central before proceeeding. Understand that but in the end the work will need to complete and it’s not my problem that the car was delivered to me 7 days ago in that state.

i drove to shops today actually practical car ! The handbrake wasn’t used unless the car was parked no hill starts , however the pulling of brake was still an extended operation and you leave the car second guessing ? 

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I’m still struggling to understand that if you’ve got a non or partly operational handbrake, why are you insisting on using it?

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And if youve got time, why don’t you just drive to closest lotus specialist and say “can you try my handbrake”

or meet up with a local owner to compare.

you don’t sound very proactive.

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I have arranged with central lotus for them to come to my house early next week to review the car if it’s in need of fixing they will take it away and leave me a car

its me that had to make all the arrangements otherwise I would be make two trips up to central about 40 mins away ! I have a very busy work schedule travelling around the uk but unfortunately not towards notts and anyway I have last few days spend time with my daughter as it’s half term and this time is precious not about wasted on driving around the midlands  trying to sort a silly issue.

i have been proactive as I can given it’s been only 7 days since I had the car , I emailed and spoke to dealer the following day after delivery and then they didn’t properly deal with this until Tuesday 

to me this handbrake doesn’t work properly but if I am told it’s a quirkiness of the design make then I will bow to that and live with it !

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I'm on my 9th lotus and never had a 'querky' non working handbrake. So definitely not a case of tadts!

Gav 

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