DJW 695 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 With a few track days upcoming need to get these in place. Looking for harness bar that doesn’t need interior trim being cut about. 4 point harness would be fine, as long as it can sit beside standard seat belt for road use. Recommendations ? Quote Previously owned :Exige 380, Exige 350, Evora 400, Exige V6S, Esprit GT3, 2-11 SC, Evora S, Elite 501 Link to post Share on other sites
vd9 149 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Only few days ago after some deliberations I've paid for the harness bar and harness fitment bolts to @Seriouslylotus and 4-point Schroth harnesses to sportseats4u.co.uk. Also decided ti get the HANS devices and new helmets before using this car with the harnesses. So far Demon Tweeks seems to be the best option for this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BatMobile 524 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I got Hoffman’s to do my install, schroth 4 points didn’t arrive after 4 weeks so they put trs 4 points in as the they had those in stock. They were great for my track day and half the price. My harness bar is from lotus - straight bar. I would recommend gsm motorsport over demon. Much more flexible on price, great service and a family owned firm; also nearer you. bought my helmet from them and they were superb. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alias23 1,536 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Give @Seriouslylotus a call for the v-bar and schroth harnesses. 1 Quote www.alias23.com Link to post Share on other sites
vd9 149 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I called Dave few weeeks ago - the outcome is as per above. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MartynB 244 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 I'd also recommend MSAR. They're based in London too, with a showroom. Always found them to really know their harness stuff, esp Schroth 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arun_D 744 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 MSAR also sell the kit that allows you to use the harnesses whilst the standard belts remain installed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark248am 346 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Is there any place that sells the V6 harness bar other than @Seriouslylotus ? Been chasing him for a shipping quote since mid january and I still haven't gotten one! 8 minutes ago, Arun_D said: MSAR also sell the kit that allows you to use the harnesses whilst the standard belts remain installed. i searched on their website they don't seem to have the harness bar though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark248am 346 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 would this fit in my 380? https://www.inokinetic.com/lotus/v-force-harness-bar?category=Interior/Safety Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alias23 1,536 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, mark248am said: would this fit in my 380? https://www.inokinetic.com/lotus/v-force-harness-bar?category=Interior/Safety InoKinetic are re named Sector111 so same bar Quote www.alias23.com Link to post Share on other sites
mark248am 346 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, alias23 said: InoKinetic are re named Sector111 so same bar same bar as the seriously lotus bar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alias23 1,536 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, mark248am said: same bar as the seriously lotus bar? Seriously Lotus bar was the original Sector 111 V-Bar 1 Quote www.alias23.com Link to post Share on other sites
mark248am 346 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 I've been in contact with MSAR for the past few hours, they've been pretty quick to respond to my emails. They have the same harness bar just not listed on their website as well as the harness and the kit to keep my OEM belts. So looks like I might end up getting everything from them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crouchy 123 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 21:40, vd9 said: Only few days ago after some deliberations I've paid for the harness bar and harness fitment bolts to @Seriouslylotus and 4-point Schroth harnesses to sportseats4u.co.uk. Also decided ti get the HANS devices and new helmets before using this car with the harnesses. So far Demon Tweeks seems to be the best option for this. I also have the seriously bar but I tried to order harnesses from sportseats4u as they were about £100 cheaper, however after nearly 8 weeks they still hadn't arrived so i had to cancel the order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seriouslylotus 450 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 15/02/2018 at 11:10, mark248am said: Is there any place that sells the V6 harness bar other than @Seriouslylotus ? Been chasing him for a shipping quote since mid january and I still haven't gotten one Sorry Mark Had a few weeks of being rather unwell, Sadly this affect email responses and general business duties somewhat...Sorry On 15/02/2018 at 11:34, alias23 said: Seriously Lotus bar was the original Sector 111 V-Bar No its NOT Very very similar but not the same. The Sector bar stops the seat going all the way back Hence the new bar being UK produced with adaption to clear the seats when they are pushed all the way back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alias23 1,536 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Seriouslylotus said: No its NOT Very very similar but not the same. The Sector bar stops the seat going all the way back Hence the new bar being UK produced with adaption to clear the seats when they are pushed all the way back Even better then Quote www.alias23.com Link to post Share on other sites
mark248am 346 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 I got my harness bar from MSAR (its not listed on their website you need to email them about it) and installed it a couple of days ago. Perfect fit and chair goes all the way back still. But does anyone know how hard I should tighten the seatbelt bolts? I'm worried i might strip the thread if I do tighten it too hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jackettc 2 Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 I've just got my Schroth 4-point harness for my V6. It has a bag of washers for the lap belt. Does anyone have any idea what washers go where? A photo would be good I have checked the install instructions, but they didn't help. BTW I installed the Simply Sports Cars harness bar myself. Very nice bit of kit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LDiz 4 Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 05/03/2018 at 08:34, mark248am said: I got my harness bar from MSAR (its not listed on their website you need to email them about it) and installed it a couple of days ago. Perfect fit and chair goes all the way back still. But does anyone know how hard I should tighten the seatbelt bolts? I'm worried i might strip the thread if I do tighten it too hard. Looks good, how much is the harness bar? After one of these and some belts. (unsure of how much to tighten, just really tight 😀) Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KJD 99 Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Not “really” tight. Correctly tight! 45Nm, according to my copy of service notes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark248am 346 Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 On 21/05/2018 at 15:57, LDiz said: Looks good, how much is the harness bar? After one of these and some belts. (unsure of how much to tighten, just really tight 😀) Cheers £165 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revlover 1 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 05/03/2018 at 08:34, mark248am said: I got my harness bar from MSAR (its not listed on their website you need to email them about it) and installed it a couple of days ago. Perfect fit and chair goes all the way back still. But does anyone know how hard I should tighten the seatbelt bolts? I'm worried i might strip the thread if I do tighten it too hard. Hi can you tell me if the harnesses fit through the carbon seats ok? I’ve been told the seriously lotus bar does not fit with the new carbon seats as the harness holes have a different location to the older seats causing the harnesses not to lie flat and have a slight kink. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IanA 14 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) The SSC harness bar sits 40mm higher than the factory bar - With Schroth Harnesses they supply spacers to enable retention of factory lap-sash belt. Edited November 29, 2020 by IanA More info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seriouslylotus 450 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 hours ago, IanA said: The SSC harness bar sits 40mm higher than the factory bar - With Schroth Harnesses they supply spacers to enable retention of factory lap-sash belt. Shame they cant fit the belts correctly!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 11,888 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 To expand, the yellow tab should be on the inside. This is the weaker strap which can, in the event of a serious front impact, tear. When both harnesses are fitted correct, this means that the driver and passenger swing outwards away from each other. With this installation, they would swing towards one another which is extremely dangerous. 1 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
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