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Hi,

I'm planning to get my 1990 SE to have a faclift, V8 style.

I'm looking for the necessary parts, I do have already :

- Sills from Espritism.com ; 220

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Hans,

IMHO you should not even think about that ...

For example, all G-Esprits (S1 or S2) that were changed to S3 looks are "worthless" today.

The same is true for all classic cars.

The same will be true for all other Esprits like the SE. The SE is a classic and should stay original. Only well preserved originals will hold the value, IMHO.

BTW, there are not many untouched original SEs left ...

Cheers

Marcus

Hi,

I'm planning to get my 1990 SE to have a faclift, V8 style.

I'm looking for the necessary parts, I do have already :

- Sills from Espritism.com ; 220

Marcus

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Hello Hans,

I also like the look of the V8's, especially the rear end treatment. I even contemplated changing the rear lights, lower valance, exhaust, etc. But I'll have to agree with Marcus on this one. I think that trying to make a car something it isn't, may de-value it and looses it's original design, not to mention the thousands of Dollars or Euro's that will be spent. But the resale and originality of your car may not be important to you . . . And that's certainly okay.

To each his own. Do as you will. I am not trying to tell you what to do with your car.

But an SE is a beautiful car in it's own right. I'll save my money to maintain and repair my SE when something needs attention.

Best wishes on your project. :X

Ed

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BTW, there are not many untouched original SEs left ...

True. :X

Anyone has the right to do what they want with their car though.

Everyone else has the right not to like it when they do, thats fair.

IMO there's one very good reason not to: Expense

If i wanted to give my SE a facelift look like an S4 for example.

By the time i've got alloys, tyres, sills, bumpers, spoilers, indicators,

tailgate, engine cover, door handles, and then paint etc, etc, etc...

(and thats not including inner spec like interior, brakes, whatever)

Then i'd have spent about 5-6 times the price difference of just selling

the SE and buying an S4 instead. And thats being kind as the prices have

fallen so close that i know of some S4's that have sold cheaper than SE's

and vice versa.

If i wanted to make my SE look like a V8 (and bear in mind i've got no head

start, i'm on SE alloys and pretty much stock body), then i'd expect to spend

more money, than selling it and buying an early V8.

However...

There are very few stock SE's left, so for some the expense will not be that high

as the car might alredy have late tailgate, V8 alloys, or rear light conversions.

I've looked at many 'V8's' at shows and meets, only to look closer and realise it's

another Turbo or SE. Later wheels/tailgate/spoilers etc will i'm sure lead to the SE

model being very very hard (and rare) to spot in the future.

How much that will matter i don't know, our cars are so undervalued right now

that it's not really thought about, perhaps if they were worth proper money then

keeping original would be more important.

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I also state that if you want another model buy one

dont buy a SE if you really want a S4 or an V8

once you get started it's allways going to cost you more than expected

you will allmost allways end up spending 80% of the price of selling yours and buying "the real thing"

You will allways know it's a kitcar

I would buy a SE with the power of a V8 (so drivability and power upgrades) but never a kitcar

its like a ferrari on a fiero base

60% of the 911's with the looks of a turbo are fake ???????

greets Rens

researche is something i do when i don't know what the hell i'm doing

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Still looking for a rear spoiler (early V8, banana style) ,wheel arches, repeater lamp assy in front bumper (with clear lenses ?), door handles and front bumper & spoiler.

If I can find it somewhere, I'd like to have a wind deflector as well ...

If anyone knows where to find second hand parts, please let me know :X

Hans,

Sorry, we digress from your question and it is your car and your choice ;)

Anyone help Hans with above, perhaps with some tips on the door handle work?

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Hans,

Sorry, we digress from your question and it is your car and your choice :X

Anyone help Hans with above, perhaps with some tips on the door handle work?

I've read it all, and I can understand your points of view !

One thing made me very clear : whenever I change something, I'll always keep the original part aside. I already removed some badges from day 1 (as I did on my regular car, I just don't like badges, and I didn't throw them away ! ) Whenever it might be needed, the original parts can be put back on it to restore to the original state.

I'm not intended to ever sell my car, but in case of need (you never now what can happen), I can easily restore to the original state that way.

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