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What are the potential pitfalls of these? I'm look to buy my dream car a G Esprit Turbo and I like the look of the dry sump cars with the comps and black bumpers and they are rarer and come up for sale from time to time, but i don't want something that will cause me more headaches (than normal for a 35+ year old Lotus). Everyone ive spoken to including Lotus specialist garages have said to avoid them at all cost as they are problematic and many of the parts like scavenge pump are pretty much unobtainable.

I'm pretty good with maintenance and repair myself and the car wont be used anymore than most i imagine, but i will want it to work well and will drive it as much as i can on weekends ect

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The annulus in my scavenge pump were broken.My engine rebuilder made new ones out of better material.All internal components can be manufactured if the pump housing isn`t damaged,thats what he said to

Not had any issues with mine being an (Essex) dry sump. Agree that the Compomotive wheels are something else but the BBS wheels do look good too.  

I love mine, only ever let me down once and it does get used, that was a clutch slave cylinder. As Jonny says you can convert to Comps but I would read Jonny’s thread first about his conversion but to

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I’ve never been fortunate enough to grab a dry sumper. I wouldn’t hesitate to get one if I had the chance either. Go for it 👍

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Some parts are getting rare but a well maintained car will probably come with spares. Many dry sump owners have a spare pump as it’s something that can be damaged beyond repair. The parts that are unique to the dry sump are obviously the ones that are hard to find. But with a bit of patience most can still be sourced. Compomotives are getting hard to find but do pop up on eBay occasionally. Rear 4 stud hubs were thought to be extinct so Lotusbits had some made at my expense and Mike now has a good supply. He also has everything you need to convert a BBS car to Comps which I have done. I don’t regret it for a moment but for hard driving I’d advise sticking with BBS and modern tyres. It took a while to find someone who could rebuild them airtight. They are a beautiful and very light wheel but more fragile and designed as a proper race wheel to be rebuilt regularly. They are high maintenance, it’s worth retightening all the nuts after a few miles which is a wheels off job with 80 oddbolts to check. Still the best looking 15” wheel of all time and they really complete the early Turbo look, my dream car also as a boy.

I paid top dollar at the time for a very good example and it has only failed to complete a journey once since 2013. That was preventable too, the belt to the oil pump snapped and should have been replaced along with the others. So there’s no reason a sorted car will be a nightmare but finding a really good one will be hard. There was a very nice white car for sale recently, exactly like mine, Comps, red leather, roof stereo, whole 9 yards. No idea what happened but haven’t seen any ads for it recently. It was for sale a while at a strong asking price. Well worth it in my opinion but I would say that wouldn’t I?

Dry sumps are very rare, best estimate is 143 cars built and that includes the 34 Essex cars (currently 6 figures if you could ever find one for sale). How many left? No one knows. Will be way less than 100 though.

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I love mine, only ever let me down once and it does get used, that was a clutch slave cylinder. As Jonny says you can convert to Comps but I would read Jonny’s thread first about his conversion but to be fair he has done the hard work for you, was £££££ if memory serves correctly 

i have decided to keep the BBS now, I prefer the lower stance of the dry sump but as mentioned above I would be looking for a well known on here car as they what you don’t want to buy is a lemon. Stick the feelers out as many seem to change hands off market. It will also depend on your budget I guess. They don’t look so bad on bbs C30E2970-B70F-47BC-8420-FAF154BF5BA4.thumb.jpeg.9272a4441b4bfc7584b955105a48d1ed.jpeg

 

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They are rare cars and parts can be an issue but that can happen with many older cars. As mentioned, the oil pump is the holy grail and anyone who loves their car will have a spare. 

I would say though that there really isn't any difference in looks or performance between a dry sump and a wet sump car (excepting those with Compomotive wheels).

If you really have to have a dry sump thats great but any Turbo Esprit is special.

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3 hours ago, Smithy111 said:

 Everyone ive spoken to including Lotus specialist garages have said to avoid them at all cost as they are problematic

I'm surprised Lotus specialists have said this. They are a very desirable rare car and as such maybe sometimes have their challenges to source parts for (I've yet to experience any problems but maybe in the future!) but none more so I would have thought than other classic supercars.  During the restoration of my dry sump I've found the car straightforward and hugely enjoyable/ rewarding to work on. 

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1 hour ago, Bazza 907 said:

Not had any issues with mine being an (Essex) dry sump. Agree that the Compomotive wheels are something else but the BBS wheels do look good too.

 

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Your cars look amazing guys! Thanks for the guidance and info! Its interesting to see that pic of a full scavenge pump not seen a complete pic of one before.

Is a/c a must? (prefer non sunroof car)

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None of the dry sump cars had sunroofs fitted from new so if there is one then its an aftermarket one. Some do some don't. Again some had A/C some don't Danny's black Esprit (see pic above) doesn't have A/C but all Essex cars had it fitted. TBH it doesn't make a huge difference given the UK weather as you can open the windows.

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I have aircon but it’s something else that requires maintenance and and makes changing the belts more difficult, so I’m told. Mine doesn’t work very well either so not essential in my opinion. Useful for demisting the screen above all else so still desirable providing it’s working properly.

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