TLF Evora 'Sports Racer' Club!

[scotty435]

Sure sports racer prices will be a lot closer to early 400 price point in the near future and could overtake them in the years to come.

[C8RKH]

59 minutes ago, scotty435 said:

Sure sports racer prices will be a lot closer to early 400 price point in the near future and could overtake them in the years to come.

Still won't beat a good NA though.

[mayevora]

8 hours ago, C8RKH said:

Still won't beat a good NA though.

So what about a Sport Racer NA then?

[electro_boy]

@C8RKH interesting thought.  Why do you think the NA will do better than the SR?  I thought the NA and SR were very similar if the not the same mechanically, apart from the supercharger but there were a few styling and interior updates for the SR?

@mayevora I guess thats the ultimate combination?

[PaulCP]

Just to put another point of view, I think late model S cars will be more in demand than the more common SR’s 😛😛

Unique colours, Empire Green/ Essex Blue with extended leather interiors. 2nd, 3rd & 4th last S1 cars built were Essex Blue

[C8RKH]

34 minutes ago, electro_boy said:

@C8RKH interesting thought.  Why do you think the NA will do better than the SR?  I thought the NA and SR were very similar if the not the same mechanically, apart from the supercharger but there were a few styling and interior updates for the SR?

@mayevora I guess thats the ultimate combination?

Ah, but there you go @electro_boy, if Lotus owners don't even know the spec of cars how can Joe Public?

An SR is not by default supercharged!   SR was a "special edition" and stands for "Sports Racer" that added all the extras (the interior trim with the piping etc was available as an option on all Evora's at the time) and then a "unique" paint job of the back roof, front spoiler, sills etc.

So, you can get an NA SR and a supercharged SR. 

I think the original S1 cars will hold their value the best in the long term. The brush metal trim on the interior is special (the SR had a naff black coating which I think looked shite, but SR owners will think looks great = personal taste).

There is no doubt in my mind, endorsed by others including at Lotus and even racing drivers, that the NA was the better handling car than the S - the supercharger added weight high up and raised the COG - so whilst the SC car has more power, on the road it is the better car to drive. It just gives more (the S will be quicker on the track). My NA had no problems on the road keeping up with a 400 driven fast. The circa 0.3-0.4s 0-60mph time on the road just does not make any difference in reality.

The original NA LE will I believe command the highest prices in the future. It came with all the extras and the interior colour choices where just superb and many of those cars, unmolested, still to this day just look wow.

I also think of the 400's, like @PaulCP, that the Hethel Editions will hold their value the best, along with the Sport 410's that are currently "out of favour".  I think the 410 Sport will become the "Esprit GT3" of the Evora range to be honest and in future it's rawness and more focused "feel" will become sort after.  The GT430 will of course be the pinnacle of what the Evora was.

All of this will be hotly debated of course, with owners of each type of Evora agreeing or disagreeing based on what they have or they have not. One thing is for sure, EVERY EVORA is a "special" car. There are hardly too cars alike, ironically if you exclude the SR version where there are many exactly the same.

Of course, all of this is just my point of view. I'm not an expert in any way, just an observer and amateur enthusiast. I certainly am not giving investment advice re future profits from an Evora, any Evora lol.....

 

[PaulCP]

26 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

There is no doubt in my mind, endorsed by others including at Lotus and even racing drivers, that the NA was the better handling car than the S - the supercharger added weight high up and raised the COG - so whilst the SC car has more power, on the road it is the better car to drive. It just gives more (the S will be quicker on the track). My NA had no problems on the road keeping up with a 400 driven fast. The circa 0.3-0.4s 0-60mph time on the road just does not make any difference in reality.

 

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Track driving is 90% about the driver & 10% the car, unless you’re just interested in speed down the straights
You only have to see how @Foxy peddles his NA around the track to realise that.

 

 

[C8RKH]

33 minutes ago, PaulCP said:

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Track driving is 90% about the driver & 10% the car, unless you’re just interested in speed down the straights
You only have to see how @Foxy peddles his NA around the track to realise that.

 

 

You missed also that on the road, some people will take stupid chances and so might be faster, but also you need big balls both on road and track to be at the limit and willing to risk an off. I drive fast on the road but like to think I have never been at MY limit - the Evora's limit (any Evora) is a dozen notches higher than mine will ever be. On the track I drive as fast as I feel comfortable, but always at the back of my mind is I need to drive home in that car. Racing of course is different and I hope to try that one day soon.

[greenevora]

For the purposes of this thread, SR are obviously the best!

As a new buyer they look great inside and out, and have no ‘must have’ options or packs to watch out for.

Also as the last of the S1 cars they are probably about the best build quality? Possibly the 410’s are also in that bracket, but prices of these are way higher for the moment.

[C8RKH]

MSG green with the red SPORTS PREMIUM interior is the best. lOVELY...

[Spanky3]

New member. Not a great photo but you get the idea. SR S IPS on a 63 plate, I reckon it must be the only SR specced with black calipers 😶...

 

Edited November 18, 2019 by Spanky3

[Bibs]

Very stealthy, nice! Welcome to TLF and Evora ownership

[mik]

Lovely. 😎

[Bravo73]

15 hours ago, Spanky3 said:

New member. Not a great photo but you get the idea.

Welcome to TLF. 

Is that Silverstone, perchance?

[Spanky3]

5 hours ago, Bravo73 said:

Welcome to TLF. 

Is that Silverstone, perchance?

You have a keen eye - it is Silverstone.  I've been looking for a few months and had my eye on this car for a while.  I also read most of the market watch thread looking for mentions of this particular car but it's never happened, which I'm hoping is because it's pretty unremarkable as SRs go and not because it's such a basket case that no one would touch it....  

[paranoidandroid]

22 hours ago, Spanky3 said:

New member. Not a great photo but you get the idea. SR S IPS on a 63 plate, I reckon it must be the only SR specced with black calipers 😶...

 

Lovely, how are you finding the IPS? I’ve also seen a few with black callipers.

[Spanky3]

5 minutes ago, paranoidandroid said:

Lovely, how are you finding the IPS? I’ve also seen a few with black callipers.

Thanks.  The IPS thing started as a cheapskate head Vs heart thing to be honest:  Manuals have the risk, however remote, of an expensive clutch change and they also fall into the £500 a year road tax bracket.  IPS is 200 quid cheaper tax  and no clutch to worry about. 

When I drove the IPS I was very pleasantly surprised.. In Drive it's perfectly ok - smooth changes and a very relaxed drive.  In Sport its completely different.. nicely timed changes,  nice use of revs that varies depending on how you are driving the whole thing just works really well.  Paddle shift is good once you adjust to the lag.  The day I picked it up I was wondering if I'd done the right thing as it just didn't feel quite right not having to change gear but a week on and I'm sold on it.  For me at least the IPS will be the right choice about 80% of the time and I've got the Caterham for the other 20%.

[paranoidandroid]

1 hour ago, Spanky3 said:

Thanks.  The IPS thing started as a cheapskate head Vs heart thing to be honest:  Manuals have the risk, however remote, of an expensive clutch change and they also fall into the £500 a year road tax bracket.  IPS is 200 quid cheaper tax  and no clutch to worry about. 

When I drove the IPS I was very pleasantly surprised.. In Drive it's perfectly ok - smooth changes and a very relaxed drive.  In Sport its completely different.. nicely timed changes,  nice use of revs that varies depending on how you are driving the whole thing just works really well.  Paddle shift is good once you adjust to the lag.  The day I picked it up I was wondering if I'd done the right thing as it just didn't feel quite right not having to change gear but a week on and I'm sold on it.  For me at least the IPS will be the right choice about 80% of the time and I've got the Caterham for the other 20%.

 I also have the IPS and enjoy it, always in Sport mode though 😎

[blueg33]

I don't use sport mode in town.  I use manual sport mode most of the time on the open road except mways and dual carriageways where I use auto sports mode.

[Inkyfingers]

I find the IPS gets better the harder you drive it. Mine feels a little hesitant when doodling about, but feels plenty sharp when pushing on.

I always have it in Sport mode (unless coming on going at unsociable hours*) and I use the paddles all the time. 

 

*of course, when leaving home, the neighbours have already been woken by the boom when the engine starts 😜

[Bozzie]

New to me 2014 ‘S’ 4.5k miles, white/black with 2bular and K&N. Absolutely loving everything about this car! My 4th lotus after Elan+2, S1 and S2 Elise 111s

[mik]

That’s a low mileage! Hope you are going to drive it 😊

[Bruss]

That is very nice. 

[blueg33]

Very nice - do you know who made the wing.  Thinking of doing that to my Daytona Blue Sports Racer if I don't trade up to a 410 sport.

[Bozzie]

It’s made in Hong Kong I believe but they can easily be shipped anywhere apparently!  I wasn’t sure initially but it’s growing on me. I intended to garage the car and use at weekends only, but I like it so much and looks so sexy, I keep it outside and drive it regularly - May need to up my insurance mileage!!