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where can I find the differences between Elite 75 and Elite 75 2.2 model?

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I'm particularly interested in:

  • side mirrors left/right (eliectrical, how do the original ones look like?)
  • where the chrome trims around the screen and side windows black?
  • how were the headlights operated? Electrical I guess? What's the motor?
  • Rear wiper: was it attached to the top of the screen, or have there been models where it was attached at the bottom end?
  • any other significant differences?

Thanks a lot 🙂

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2 hours ago, Testdriver said:

I'm particularly interested in:

  • side mirrors left/right (eliectrical, how do the original ones look like?)
  • where the chrome trims around the screen and side windows black?
  • how were the headlights operated? Electrical I guess? What's the motor?
  • Rear wiper: was it attached to the top of the screen, or have there been models where it was attached at the bottom end?
  • any other significant differences?

Thanks a lot 🙂

mirrors - big square paddles similar (but not the same as a Daimler/XJ6).

chrome trims were same as series1

headlight motors - from a TR7

rear wiper -always the top of the screen S2

the sills are the most significant other visual difference. totally different. Gearbox is different (getrag 265), that and the chassis being galvanised.

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Hi Daniel,

it's not so easy because the S1 got some serious updates in his second half with the side mirrors and frontspoiler, different aircon etc.  But it is an interesting question because I haven't read anything like this. So let's start a summary (I do love this kind of game.)

i see Duncan has already answered... so not much to add.

the position of the battery front to back ( but I don't know whether this is done on the later S1 as well

different gauges and binnacle were also changed in the S1 era

position of the inside mirror also since facelift S1

waterreservoir Tube also sind facelift S1

of course the 912 engine with lumenition ignition

different switches and centre console

different seat reclining IIRC as well a S1 facelift feature?

not to forget the Riviera option 😎

diffent wheels with different stud diameter 

new badges (very important! 😎)

no 501-504 etc. Line up anymore. Everything could be ordered.

new interior fabric and combinations

digital clock

new interior switch lighting (jag system)

Edited by Don.Hasi

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ok after a test drive I can say the car is not too bad, exept: 

  • rear wiper is missing
  • right headlight would not open
  • chrom trims around the windows are painted mat black (not the rear hatch)
  • front axle makes some funny noises
  • electric side mirror adjustments do not work
  • has been partly repainted in the rear: there's some red color on the exhaust and around the 'automatic' letters on the back, so the paint was most probably not done very good
  • some interior parts come loose (above the head on the drivers side)
  • car was sitting around for years, but has a recent service with cambelt

on the plus side:

  • engine and gearbox do not feel too bad
  • paint over all seems to be ok
  • front wiper works
  • all gauges seem to work

the car is 1979 (guess it's the 907 engine then, not an S2?) and has a recent swiss 'MOT' for 6 years. Disadvantage of this is, it's only allowed to be driven 3000KM/year. Otherwise, MOT will be due every 2 years without KM limitation. 

Has to pass pollution test every 12 month as it's after 1975...

Owner wants 28000 CHF/24000 EUR/21000 GBP which is far too much. I'd rate the car rather 1/3 of that. What do you think?

 

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That car is a series 1 automatic with a strange rear bumper.

If being left hand drive adds 15,000 Euro to an Elite's value, I will open a business converting them.

The car looks okay. Not special, just okay.

24,000 Euro - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....

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@dunc maybe a rear-ended car, that's why the rear was poorly repainted and a S2 rear bumper...?

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Wow, 24,000 EU. I should advertise my auto Excel overseas then, or the Elite and treble the price, I could then give a bit of discount for being RHD.

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the LED lights are terrible... yes, I think 4-6k Euro would be the maximum

Let's wait and see 😉

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From the pictures, the headlights are vacuum operated.

This car was for sale some 15-20 years ago in Nyon (VD) for a lot less I recall.

Waist line was ground away, make sure the car does not end up in 2 halves 😉

As for rarity, only 11 Elite / Eclat ROW LHD 504 /524 were built.

Still as Don.Hasi says, 4K to 6K € max.

Neil

 

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4-6K €?

Keep in mind it is not a RHD. I have been keeping an eye on LHD Elites for sale in the past two years. They seldom come up for sale, and I have never seen a good roadworthy Elite for 4K€. If someone knows a good one for 4-6K €, please let me know.

 

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Market forces drive prices but if you pay much over the suggested 6K EUR you could well be fuelling that market.

Would you consider a car thats not been run for several years, has bits missing and needs some work, is in good condition? 

I think good condition means get in and drive with an MOT (or your equivalent) and that of course, would be worth somewhat more.

In the end you'll need to decide for yourself whether it's a worthwhile buy and as you requested, people have given their views.

Besk of luck with your search. :) 


It's getting there......

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Rhd was more common since they sold I the UK in higher numbers and this will keep prices lower in those markets. One would ever rarer. Converting from rhd to lhd would not cost the difference in price though. The dash panel is modular and the gauges and the glove box can be easily swapped. Brake master cylinder molding on the body is the same on either side so this would be an easy swap with pedals also moving. A steering rack might be required but weren't these ford parts so easy to get in lhd? I would be interested to see how the steering column routes past the exhaust manifold but swapping side wouldn't be outrageously difficult. By a UK car save the money to make the car better and swap sides... Unless of course your local laws preventbthis and your a stuck with buying a car first registered in your region.

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On 10/06/2018 at 14:01, Dunc said:

mirrors - big square paddles similar (but not the same as a Daimler/XJ6).

chrome trims were same as series1

headlight motors - from a TR7

rear wiper -always the top of the screen S2

the sills are the most significant other visual difference. totally different. Gearbox is different (getrag 265), that and the chassis being galvanised.

Hi Daniel 

On the first Elites I know the door mirrors were  Cromadora astro same as the Ferrari and fiat cars. If you have a good set they can sell for $300 to $500 plus each..

Series one sill covers were very thin and not easy to get so you have repair them. 

These were hardest parts I had to find so far.

Cheers 

Simon 

 

 

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10 hours ago, SimonOmeara said:

Hi Daniel 

On the first Elites I know the door mirrors were  Cromadora astro same as the Ferrari and fiat cars. If you have a good set they can sell for $300 to $500 plus each..

 

 

🤕 outch

ok thanks for sharing 

I'll keep mine until I find a perfect one 😉

The red auto is just too much work - again...

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