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Is an Auto Roadster financial suicide?


WayneG

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I'm certainly not buying an Exige S as an investment, but there's the obvious point that the car will be sold on down the line. The Exige is already a niche car, so am I going to struggle terribly to sell on a Roadster for starters, and secondly, would the Auto/IPS box be even harder? One dealer said that they have a demographic for the IPS as they're near a large city and people don't like the manuals as they're sat in traffic a lot. Made sense but could have been BS.

Also, some cars seem to have a "DPM" switch with +/- and others have a switch with Tour/Sport/Racing flag... I take it the DPM is the less advanced traction system with no race mode that can "learn" the grip levels?

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Depends on how much you pay for it initially I guess and how long you intend keeping the car. From a re-sale perspective I think you will have a very limited audience in Roadster/IPS spec. There again it maybe exactly what someone else is after!!

Not much help I guess....

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Id say yes. Autos are cheaper, and so are roadsters. So combine the two and it's worse. All you need to top it off is tartan and you may as well drive it then burn it when you're bored.

The dpm switch is from the Exige S, while the others are from the 350 range.

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It certainly isn’t financial suicide, if you buy used - especially compared to how much money you lose when buying new.  It’s all relative and you’ll pick one up a little cheaper in the first place.

I have a Roadster (manual) and bought it because I prefer the look without the spoiler. Cleaner lines and to me, “less is more”.   I wanted a manual because coming from an Elise I prefer to have that control.   But if I wanted an auto, then I wouldn’t hesitate to go for the IPS.

Buy the car you want, for your needs, I wouldn’t worry about a small amount of extra depreciation when compared to the manual.  The Exige is a fantastic package regardless.

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Loved the Auto in my Evora 400, but it’s much faster changing gear from pull of paddle to gear change, than Exige IPS models .  Not sure why, as same gearbox, so you would have thought Lotus would applied Evora 400 software map, 

I did contemplate buying an IPS Exige and going to an auto gearbox specialist to see if they could create a bespoke map for gear change .  

Previously owned :Exige 380,  Exige 350,  Evora 400,  Exige V6S,  Esprit GT3,  2-11 SC,  Evora S,  Elite 501

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There was a chap at croft recently with an Exige V6S IPS. He loved it, and admitted to not having used the paddles despite owning the car for many months.

In contrast, a dealer took a demo Exige IPS to the Exiges day last year at Anglesey. It was always hitting the limiter before changing gear which could be down to driving style, anticipation and the IPS software. Ithink the IPS (in Exige guise) is meant for city folks who like the odd spirited drive in the country, so maybe has less appeal in the wider market.

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On 29/06/2018 at 23:55, RoflOnMyWaffle said:

Id say yes. Autos are cheaper, and so are roadsters. So combine the two and it's worse. All you need to top it off is tartan and you may as well drive it then burn it when you're bored.

The dpm switch is from the Exige S, while the others are from the 350 range.

You forgot to mention that it should also be in Yellow.

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Buy at the right price, and appreciate that when it comes time to sell it'll take a while, and it may not be the hideous decision it seems.

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So at the risk of getting flamed...

Last year on a trip to the Alps, with a bunch of people who had connections with various high-end sports car manufacturers, their considered opinion was that an Exige 350 with the auto box was the pick of the range unless you were an out-and-out track warrior.  When pushed as to why, their answer was that the IPS system is a lot better than people give it credit for and it takes some of the "effort" out of driving a focused car like the Exige, and lets you drive the car more of the time when you might choose ordinarily not to.

It really depends on what you're buying the car for, I suppose.  The resale value might be worse, but if the package ticks your boxes, then it would make perfect sense to me.

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On 29/06/2018 at 18:06, WayneG said:

 

Also, some cars seem to have a "DPM" switch with +/- and others have a switch with Tour/Sport/Racing flag... I take it the DPM is the less advanced traction system with no race mode that can "learn" the grip levels?

 

 

On 29/06/2018 at 23:55, RoflOnMyWaffle said:

 

The dpm switch is from the Exige S, while the others are from the 350 range.

 Within the V6S platform (prior to the 350 sport platform upgrade) there were 3 levels of DPM rotary switch. The  last iteration in 2015 (for example on my V6 Cup), was a +/- rocker.  @wayne even if you see a car with this level, it still may have race mode, it just means it's not immediately obvious from looking at the switch. 350 onwards then went to individual buttons per mode.

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I had a 2016 V6s Exige until very recently and it was an excellent Car .

It is widely accepted that the gear change is not as quick as more modern exotica but you make an allowance for it 

Best mode for me both on track and road was Sport or Race depending on conditions and always use the paddle shifters. You just shift half a second earlier to accommodate the very slight delay in the gear change. 

On Track it was far more user friendly than a manual unless you are blessed with lightning reflexes 

All in all it is a good package and cheaper than a manual although £2,000 more expensive new + you get a a gearbox cooler as a bonus 

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One of the reasons I sold my 350 Sport (after 15 months of ownership) was the irritating noise made by the manual box - just plain annoying when below 3Krpm and under light throttle. Many of the manuals do this, spoils an otherwise superb car imo :(

If I have another V6 Exige (never say never!) it would have to be an auto, I couldn't risk landing myself with another tractor gearbox.

 

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I have a IPS exige and i do a fair amount of trackdays its defo not a PDK or DSG quality box but you get to learn how to use it best and I think its mega on track the downshifts can live with anything the up changes are quick enough theres just a slight delay in paddle to change but its easy to drive around it, also there is a brand new software update for the IPS box which mite improve things.....

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