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Here are the invoices for the rebuild.  The car us currently at 36,000 miles so covered about 2500 miles 😂.  Is that a record.  I think the £1000 part was a new crankshaft.

i believe they were a lotus official dealer until 2009.  Car hasn't been used hardly and maybe that's where the problems lie.

 

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God!! I feel terrible for you and now am petrified mine might do the same. Specially with that turbo vain in the glovebox!  It’s a bloody nightmare.😪

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IMHO - there’s simply not enough parts on that list to categorise that engine as rebuilt. 

Its not had head gaskets or even cam belts on that invoice. It looks like it’s had the sump dropped and some works done - but that is a world away from a rebuild

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That's a pretty extensive list with some pretty major components (front cover/oil pump... crank... etc).

The top-end gasket set includes head gaskets, so all the indications are of a pretty fully build.

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I saw that as well Thomas. Since they did touch the turbos there may be some sort of recourse, except is that even possible with the business having shutdown?

All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit.

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I have a bleeding heart for you 

I really don't know what to say apart from an original unrebuilt as Lotus intended engine seems to last far longer than a fiddled with one. By anybody else I mean (with the honourable exceptions of Mike K, Alex C and a very few others).  Don't buy a recon one from SWLC though...

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I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob)

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Really really sorry to read this. Horrid stuff. The fear we all live with (v8 owners I’m not sure how you sleep at night) don’t sell, feel it’s the knee jerk reaction. Sod the matching numbers, no one really cares. You just need an engine. I’ve no idea on spare costs etc that have been mooted here but can vouch for Gerald at GST. Top guy and will do a proper job, although mike on here has also been partial to the odd rebuild.... 

 

best set of luck with whatever route you choose 

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Thinking about this I'm curious as to what exactly was the root cause of your engine failing. Seizures surely can only occur either because of lack of lubrication or overheating? It's not as if you had a tight engine that was being run in, after 2,500 miles it should be good to trot?

I've just had that moment when I think back to @Blackngolds3turbo post a few days ago with the cracked oil pickup. Perhaps it might be a common design failing that all of us V8 owners should shit ourselves about... 

I tempted fate...now my Esprit V8 IS in bits...(sob)

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damn I feel for you Mighty, I am not in as bad a situation as it was still running prior to removal but I am doing a full rebuild on my own. Once the engine was on a stand, I found all my answers. Up until then I was clueless what might have been causing the sudden temp spikes, milky oil and metal contamination. 

I evaluated the cost of all parts I needed and contacted everyone that I needed to. Spoke to Lotus gurus and got very Mixed opinions on what to do and not to do. It's up to me now to make the right choices on this 918 rebuild. I'm a little afraid of the investment but it's the only way to keep the Esprit pure.  If I was in your shoes, I would pull it out myself and tear it down (what harm could it do now). 

It's gonna take some motivation and to have more then one plan of action going into it. If it's not salvagable then can you afford a replacmenent, if that's not worth then is it worth selling a shell? I left myself open to more options then that but I dont want to be shamed from here with crazy talk, I'm still trying to keep it original. 

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I have had lots of Esprit engines rebuilt we pull them out put them on a pallet and send them to Peter at PNM Engineering 0151 6306 101 .He does an excellent job very clever helpful bloke  and skilfull engineer and has rebuilt hundreds of Esprit engines.  The only down side is he is not the quickest but if you are not in a rush this should work for you.

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9 hours ago, swindon_alan said:

Don't buy a recon one from SWLC though...

SWLC rebuilt my V8 engine 5 years ago now and has been faultless, to be honest it just seems to get better and better (if that's possible).

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I must admit that I amazed that you didn't hear or feel anything.

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16 hours ago, mike_sekinger said:

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Long missed a @mike_sekinger rebuild thread :thumbup: Automotive porn...I’ll get the popcorn 🍿;) 

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Terrible news. Really feel for you. I have to agree about keeping the original engine. A matching numbers car does increase the value in the collector car world, whether that engine has been rebuilt or not. If it was me and the engine was rebuildable I would walk down that path.

truely wish you the best in what has turned out to be very frustrating and disheartening situation.

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Sorry...I know we shouldn't but I'm still speculating.

A major design fault on the 918 engine was the interference fit unkeyed intermediate shaft timing belt pully, this along with failiure to reverse the thread on the securing bolt. If the bolt loosens it leaves the pully free to slip on the shaft with disastrous results.

I also notice from the rebuild invoices, a new front cover and timing chain slippers, that would indicate previous issues in that area and would further support @Blackngolds3turbo theory of catastrophic valve timing failiure. @black&gold

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Easy enough with a Scotch Key - but of course the idlers are consumables so machining some sets makes sense.

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Hope you get the car back on the road soon.

Looking at your pictures of the plugs L1, R2 and are R3 which are the same as the bad pistons. Looks like one thing led to the other or at least they are connected. Maybe someone has an idea about it.

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That's a good pickup. I hadn't made the link between the plugs and the cylinder photos. What I think I can comfortably say is why were those plugs not fairly clean as well? Why all the rust? Are they harder to get than the others and so were not changed? Even then, you would expect the plug to simply stop sparking and you would lose the cylinders.

Be interesting to find out what has happened.

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