free hit
counters
Evora market watch, for discussion and to help those searching! - Page 138 - Evora Chat - The Lotus Forums #ForTheOwners Jump to content


Evora market watch, for discussion and to help those searching!


Colin G

Recommended Posts


Upgrade today to remove Google ads and support TLF.

I’m hoping an enthusiast LE owner will look to sell in the near future as they look to upgrade to a 400/410/GT etc. 😗

Been keeping an eye out for some time

but with lockdown and covid it’s not priority whilst sat at home working and homeschooling 😅

I’ve noticed half a dozen early NA sell over the last 6 months. 
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I recon there is a good deal to be had with that car. The dealer was asking how much people thought it was worth, so to be in that position he must of got it for a decent price in the first place. Car look a nice spec to be fair, quite rare.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Gold FFM
1 hour ago, jep said:

That ain't no upgrade. NA the best. 😄

Its wonderful that us NA owners would like to upgrade to 400 etc 

I think reality the NA is wonderful niche car that allows you to drive it at way which extracts max enjoyment from the cars characteristics ?

in the case of jumping to 400 there’s always question of finance and I know that my car value to me represents a great value and hopefully will still be  in the future ? 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Gold FFM

Some cars need improvements during their life-span, as perhaps the early cars were found dynamically or quality wanting. Early Porsche 928 are a dull drive; the 1987 S4 are a significantly better driving experience. Early Esprit (I love 'em) had noise, vibration and harshness issues that the S3 resolved - that matters not today as a classic car but when new, the Esprit S3 was just a better all-round vehicle. 

Invariably the later cars also get more power - it is an easy 'selling point' for the manufacturers (though NA Esprit power output hardly moved).

In my eyes, Evora was nailed from day 1. The move to S was basically a power-hike; MY12 did see production changes (for quality reasons I am told but my 2010 car has been fine) but no power increase. The face-lift for 400 gave more power as frankly the market is led by BHP figures. Is a 400 dynamically better than a NA? I don't think so. Both brilliant but the S and 400 were not produced because of the NA failings, they were produced to provide more grunt. Of course, they got heavier........ and wider tyres (yawn). 

I can only assume the NA was dropped as it was not financially viable along side 400.  Probably the same reason McLaren have never made a 300bhp car.

Justin

 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Gold FFM

Yes they are. That said I’d quite happily move back to my S1 from the 400. For me it’s a choice. 400 or NA. 

 

1 hour ago, Colin P said:

Is a 400 dynamically better than a NA? I don't think so.

 

A Lotus is for driving, pork is for breakfast.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Gold FFM
32 minutes ago, jep said:

I can only assume the NA was dropped as it was not financially viable along side 400

My own personal belief is that the NA was dropped as Lotus wanted the ability to charge the premium (and make more cash per unit) for the 400.  I think at the same time if they had made say a 310 and 400 (the 310 was easy changes for Lotus to make to be fair on the NA) they would have been worried that the 310 would have taken too many sales away from the 400 (and therefore reduced profits).  I really do think it was just, and only, for the profit coin that the NA was dropped.

I still have hugely fond memories of my NA and I still do look when they come up for sale. I'd have one again in a heartbeat.

In fact, prices at the lower end are getting to the point where I have considered selling my VX220 to get a low cost NA, to strip out and use as track car. I bet it would be a great weapon with an easy 310-320bhp to get.  It is a very tempting proposition as unlike the VX, the Evora has the comfort - a proper heater, lights, cruise etc) to make my 800 mile round trips to track a pleasure.

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, C8RKH said:

In fact, prices at the lower end are getting to the point where I have considered selling my VX220 to get a low cost NA, to strip out and use as track car. I bet it would be a great weapon with an easy 310-320bhp to get.  It is a very tempting proposition as unlike the VX, the Evora has the comfort - a proper heater, lights, cruise etc) to make my 800 mile round trips to track a pleasure

That's a great idea, you'd notice the difference in inertia obviously but dynamically, I think the chassis on the Evora is much much better.  Stripped out and striped back, I wonder how light it would end up?

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, AdeMorton said:

Noticed a 2009 NA has just come on here.. https://www.micarz.co.uk/used/lotus/shipley/ there are some pics on the Evora Owners Facebook page... 

As has been said above, the dealer was asking questions on the Lotus Evora Owners Group on Facebook yesterday about this car regarding whether it was "fully loaded" and asking for opinions on pricing, with three photos. A couple of us think it looks very similar to the Evora that was for sale in Derby before Christmas. I know of one other early persian blue/oyster LE Evora, which is on the LE register thread.

@jamesbilluk is this your Evora or have you still got it?

Edited by EuropaSman
Typos (again!)

Lover of everything Lotus Cars and proud owner of production Evora No.75 (2nd UK customer specced car by VIN). Originally from the Far East....of Anglia, I read black box data for a living so that could explain a lot!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Gold FFM

There's one on Pistonheads (well, two but Will Blackham's red one has sold) I think it's been up a while.

I bought mine last year through Will without it being advertised, which may be the way of things to come with the series 1.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@C8RKH I'm only a track day newbie and no Gavin Kershaw by a long way ...  but round a track I much prefer the lower weight of the Elise I tried at LDA.  The Exige 350 was amazing too but as a noob I felt more comfortable with the Elise, the lighter weight was just easier to deal with and I felt comfortable getting close to the limits and fine with the Elise squirming about under heavy braking etc.  My Evora feels even heavier and cumbersome still, you can feel that heavy engine and more rearward bias in the Evora.   Maybe with some weight stripped out it could be better?

Don't get me wrong as you know its still a great car and much better than other brands, I don't have space for another car so my car has to be jack of all trades and its pretty darn good at it but if it was my track day / special day car and I already had VX202 and Sport 410 I'm not sure a NA would cut the mustard?

How different is a VX2020 from the Toyota engined Elises?  Didn't they start getting more comfortable with touring pack options around that time?

Edited by electro_boy
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, EuropaSman said:

As has been said above, the dealer was asking questions on the Lotus Evora Owners Group on Facebook yesterday about this car regarding whether it was "fully loaded" and asking for opinions on pricing, with three photos. A couple of us think it looks very similar to the Evora that was for sale in Derby before Christmas. I know of one other early persian blue/oyster LE Evora, which is on the LE register thread.

@jamesbilluk is this your Evora or have you still got it?

Sadly yes. Even though I had it a short time, lots of issues started appearing. The worry about what else would go wrong with it was taking over the enjoyment of the car.

I just hope he's got the problems sorted. Wouldn't want anyone else to get into trouble with it. The door catches were on back order from lotus. Speak belt, knocking from the front right, and spanner illuminating for 30 seconds, and not convinced the AC was working. 

Edited by jamesbilluk
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Barrykearley said:

You sent it back @jamesbilluk?? 
there really was very little that needed to be done to make the car fine. They are superb cars - I’m sad to see this.

Sold it to that chap, was at bit a loss, but sadly I don't think it was for me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, Barrykearley said:

Really 😳 - I can honestly say the Evora is hands down one of the best cars I’ve ever driven - and I’ve driven a lot....

It was a great car to drive. But I found the worry of what each new sound was, or what was going to go wrong next, was taking over the enjoyment of it (could just be this car I think) 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I do understand, James. My Evora has presented quite a few challenges over the last few years - nothing major really, but at times it was incessant - and you have to really love driving it a lot to keep going at times. Happily mine's all sorted now but it was a little touch-and-go whether or not I'd keep it and I'm totally in love with the car. Yours sounds like  a lot of minor stuff honestly, but they all add up, like the saying goes: 'death by a thousand cuts'. It's a shame, but I do understand.

Just don't buy a Porsche; that will be 'death by a huge cut' such as an engine or gearbox failure......

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...