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14 minutes ago, Bravo73 said:

There is considerable contradiction in those 2 statements!

 

(By the way, aside from a few early cars with an installation issue, the Evora clutch is not a common issue. Which is why some of them make it to 125k+). 

As he often is, Jonny is correct on this. I'm sorry but to say the Evora clutch is a "known common issue" is just BS and another Internet myth. 

There is not, and has never been, a "common issue" with the Evora clutch (there was an issue with a limited number of early NA CR gearboxes having some soft internals, but that was not clutch related).

I would say that the majority of Evora's are still on their original clutches, with some having been changed.  Last I checked the clutch was classed as a "consumable item" and by it's very mechanical purpose it will wear down. But there are so many factors to consider wrt driving style, conditions etc that it is hard to even say what "general wear" should be after say 50k miles - I mean, 50k miles of trackdays and B road blasts? Or 50k miles of motorway DD duties?

Also, you can't just generalise re the clutch. I take it you do know that there was the NA clutch (276bhp), that was uprated for the S (345 bhp), that itself I believe (please correct me if I am wrong) was updated for the 4xx cars (406 - 430 bhp).  So which clutch has the "common issues"?

The main issue is simply one of cost - it costs between £1800 and £3000 to get a new clutch fitted (as you usually need to remove the rear clam) depending on who you get to do it for you. That is a massive bill and so it causes people to be wary especially when buying a second hand car with a value of say £25 - £50k. 

The actual statement should have been "People who have never experienced an Evora clutch issue have a known common issue to obsess about uncommon issues with the Evora clutch!"

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I think the issue is why it had to have a new clutch at 15k miles and will you get a honest answer. 15k miles is nothing compared to 125k.

Is the worn out clutch a symptom of another problem and has that problem been fixed?

Did the previous owner continuously do 6.5k rpm starts while slipping the clutch? Does the service history include frequent tyre bills? Do you have regular ECU performance figures in the service history That show abusive usage?

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59 minutes ago, mg4lotus said:

I think the issue is why it had to have a new clutch at 15k miles

I work in car dealers on a weekly basis - you will see 1.0l granny/first car/town cars having clutches at less than them miles every single week

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4 hours ago, mg4lotus said:

I think the issue is why it had to have a new clutch at 15k miles and will you get a honest answer. 15k miles is nothing compared to 125k.

Is the worn out clutch a symptom of another problem and has that problem been fixed?

Did the previous owner continuously do 6.5k rpm starts while slipping the clutch? Does the service history include frequent tyre bills? Do you have regular ECU performance figures in the service history That show abusive usage?

I will be honest, this is what I’m concerned about. Judging from the overall condition of the car I feel it’s unlikely it’s been tracked or ragged everywhere. That makes me think it could be something else that they have fixed the symptom and not the cause. I don’t know how common that is with Evoras. 

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It's not common. That's the point people are making here.

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Absolutely, we love Evoras.

Changing the clutch at 15k is not normal for any road car.

If it's a mechanical problem and it's not been fixed then you need to decide if you still want it and how much you are prepared to pay.

If it's a mechanical problem and it has been fixed then you need to decide if you still want it and how much you are prepared to pay.

If the problem was the previous owner then that is now fixed. You need to assess the wear and tear and if you still want it and how much you are prepared to pay for it.

Precautionary replacement of the clutch - Highly unlikely at such a low mileage, the general consensus usually suggests around 40k miles although some can manage over 100k on the same clutch. It would only make sense if you were planning to do over 30k miles per year.

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I'm confused over all the fuss. If it was people being worried on the clutch on an Exige I'd understand it, as they actually drive their cars hard.  Don't most Evora owners spend all their time polishing the silver gear knob and ceramic coating the exterior to avoid the dust settling into their paintwork on the odd occasion when they take their tailored indoor car cover off it?

Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

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18 minutes ago, scotty435 said:

Not me just last week a spirited drive in the Peak District with fellow enthusiast 

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And we where adhering to then the lockdown rules. Please follow the latest lockdown and that will hopefully give us all opportunity to have a better new year in a few months time. Happy motoring in 2021.

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Re the clutch I'd want to know why it was changed and what parts were replaced at the same time. Also I'd want to know more about

"This example was originally a demonstrator from new "   Demonstrator or factory press car?

 

 

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I thought the factory press cars were always very well maintained and thoroughly renovated before being passed out to dealers. Certainly the impression I was given from people in the know on here. As a Demonstrator can't imagine many Dealers endorsing someone really ragging it on a demonstration drive. But I may be wrong. Local Subaru dealer up here, a few years ago, had someone crash at speed an Impreza WRX STI GTE GTD PTSD STD whatever and the driver was killed. Not good PR.

 

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Thanks for all the comments guys. I think I will give this one a miss, I’m maybe being over cautious but I’ve never spent this kind of money on a car before, so it needs to be one I’m comfortable with. 
 

 

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Good call. Your money, your decision.
For what it’s worth, I have never sought advance advice from others on the internet about any car I have purchased. Unless one of us happened to own that particular car recently, we can only know a whole lot less than you about it!

Plenty more fish in the sea... I am sure you will catch the one you want.

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What a shame the person who won it didn't even run it in. So sad.

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Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate.  Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies!    

The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts!   

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5 hours ago, C8RKH said:

What a shame the person who won it didn't even run it in. So sad.

Yeah 820 miles! It's not even run in ! !  It's none of my business clearly and who knows the circumstances, but I'm really annoyed with the winner here, shame on them!  I think that price is very optimistic as well.

And on another note, some lucky person appears to have snapped up my old Evora too 🙂 

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