Gold FFM jep Posted May 7 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 7 Sport 410 is a brilliant motor car. I drove UV LOTUS today, the Ultraviolet Sport 410.....wow! The ex-press car is a bargain. Justin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzybondov Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 49 minutes ago, Gubsta said: Hi Guys, This is my car - happy to answer any questions. It’s a fabulous thing but my obsession with elderly BMWs has got the better of me and I just wasn’t using the Lotus. I usually have stuff I can tinker with and the lotus doesn’t tick that box. Don’t think anyone should worry about it being an ex press car - I’ve fixed a few niggles in my ownership under warranty and Silverstone have given it a clean bill of health (I have the bill to prove it!) B&C refreshed all the gear linkage mechanism for me and it’s had a recent geo and new tyres. It is pin sharp to drive. Cheers Noticed Lotus Silverstone have it on their site at £56k now - absolute bargain! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted May 7 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 7 (edited) Wow. Yes. Sport 410 is epic. A pure drive.... Edited May 7 by Bravo73 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba55uma Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 The grey and the blue IPS S cars are back on Auto trader and price dropped by £2K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 On 07/05/2022 at 16:33, Bravo73 said: £69k for a 400? Isn't that slightly, erm, 'ambitious' pricing (even considering the mileage and the current market)? 69 is always a reasonable proposition to start discussion. I paid less than that for my 400 that was the demonstrator of my local… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techyd Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 As soon as the base Emira comes out, I would suspect Evora prices will have to tumble, no ones going to want to pay on or near Emira money for an Evora with perhaps only the special ones (GT430) making some exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonathan Ashcroft Posted May 13 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 13 Apart from all those people wanting a 2+2 of course with the Evora's class leading rear seats! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post TdM Posted May 13 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted May 13 44 minutes ago, Techyd said: As soon as the base Emira comes out, I would suspect Evora prices will have to tumble, no ones going to want to pay on or near Emira money for an Evora with perhaps only the special ones (GT430) making some exceptions. It'll be interesting to see what happens for sure. The thing is the back seats DO matter for some people (including me). I don't need them most of the time but they are actually useful occasionally. The Evora fits my life perfectly, the Emira doesn't. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM jep Posted May 13 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 13 50 minutes ago, Techyd said: As soon as the base Emira comes out, I would suspect Evora prices will have to tumble, no ones going to want to pay on or near Emira money for an Evora with perhaps only the special ones (GT430) making some exceptions. I don't agree. Emira is heavy and has less BHP than 410 onwards. Emira will have zip effect on early Evora, a successful Emira may even harden prices for those as awareness is raised. +2/luggage capacity very important to many Evora owners. Post-2016 Evora are still depreciating (except 430) but I don't see any clean 400 or 410 'tumbling' in value due to Emira. If they do, I'll happily pick up another so I don't mind either way. Justin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techyd Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 I agree the lower end of the market wont drop much, if at all - but these 400s at over £60k aren't going to hold there and that will bring the 400s in general down a notch or two in value. 'Tumble' may have sounded extreme but it wasn't meant that way, really I'm thinking > £45k & < £60k for the 400 with the S1 being under that. If we assume the cars currently advertised are genuinely still available - most have been around a while and they aren't selling; IMO they are just overpriced and being overlooked as a result. The ones coming on with sensible price tags are being snapped up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM jep Posted May 13 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 13 The market is skewed presently due to supply chain issues on new cars. So perhaps 400's are a bit toppy. In normal conditions, I'd have expected to see a 2016 400 at £40k or thereabouts by now. One did sell for £38k but was resold weeks later for £46k (Jan 21). The bargain Evora are Sport 410 and early NA are still value. I agree, I probably wouldn't buy a 2019 onwards presently at prices asked (except the Sport 410 at £68k now under offer) but that is less Emira related, more supply chain effect. Justin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post TdM Posted May 13 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted May 13 The 400 is in a strange position I think. The NA has a niche, it's got less weight up top, it's a bit cheaper to run and it's just in the right sweet spot of being able to drive it hard on the road without going crazy fast. The S has a place as it's got a bit more power than the NA and gives folk who prioritise that a power hike without putting too much extra down. The GT line cars (really the 410s) are not THAT much more expensive than a 400 and IMO many think are better looking than the 400. I feel it puts the 400 in a bit of a squeeze. The Emira doesn't compete with the GT cars at the moment and when one does, it will probably be back up to 100k+ OTR with options (we know how quickly these things escalate and it's already realistically £80k OTR for an optioned v6). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton91 Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 Ooh I hope you’re wrong - I just paid a lot of money for my Evora but was conscious of this when I shook hands on it. I’m realistic about the current toppy pricing due to general used car demand issues and expect some softening of value but rarity is the thing that I am banking on here. The Emira (on which I have a deposit) is stunning but compared to Evora will be “mass produced”. Plus there is nothing else comparable with the +2 proposition. Most of all though, the Emira will be heavier, significantly quieter and may well have a speed limiter by the time it comes out. Hence i am hopeful that there will always be a market for the relatively small number of Evoras that were built. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba55uma Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13367834 Nice one came up at Will B. Who ever is looking, grab it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy5925 Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 Will B evora was sold last September Not to sure why he is keeping it live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 25 minutes ago, Troy5925 said: Will B evora was sold last September Not to sure why he is keeping it live That's not the same car as Ba55uma mentioned above https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13367834 🤨 WillB one is an '11 plate and the one you mention is a '12 plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conceptwho Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 9 hours ago, Ba55uma said: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13367834 Nice one came up at Will B. Who ever is looking, grab it. Very nice. Wish my budget could stretch to this 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy5925 Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 Ha ha 😂 🤣 So it is Just ignore me I'm Living in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 But, you're right in a way, WillB does usually leave cars on his site for a while after they sold. He sells high quality cars so I guess it is to show future owners the type and quality of cars he stocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy5925 Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 Agreed he does I bought mine of will B and has a good reputation in the lotus community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdm2018 Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 13 hours ago, Conceptwho said: Very nice. Wish my budget could stretch to this 😩 If you could this car ticks the boxes ? Don’t think you get a lower price car which doesn’t sacrifice something ? however only you can decide so respect your buying criteria ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM jep Posted May 14 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 14 On 13/05/2022 at 22:22, Ba55uma said: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13367834 Nice one came up at Will B. Who ever is looking, grab it. Airbag needs fixing. I don't understand why reputable Lotus sellers advertise cars with known defects. Fix them before advertising or mention in the blurb. Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Greg | ValetPro Posted May 15 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 15 This looks great value https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205155720955?atmobcid=soc3 1 Quote All the Best Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM EuropaSman Posted May 15 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 15 Not bad for the money. It's got its original gear knob as well (good for originality - never had a problem with the leather one and have never needed to change to the "Elise knob", I just bought an Elise instead of the aforementioned knob 😄), but needs a new passenger airbag cover though. I've not seen one quite as bad as that, bent up towards the windscreen. I wonder what condition the centre join at the front of the dash top is like? Quote Lover of everything Lotus Cars and proud owner of production Evora No.75 (2nd UK customer specced car by VIN). Originally from the Far East....of Anglia, I read black box data for a living so that could explain a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r3nault Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 Mine is pretty similar to that but the dash centre join is fine. Perhaps chalk that up to the harsh Australian sun, I think the original owner of my car didn’t use a windscreen shade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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