Evora market watch, for discussion and to help those searching!

[CocoPops 859]

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[C8RKH 6,422]

On 09/01/2017 at 18:04, Stuno1 said:

@C8RKH the interior of the ex-f is stunning and modern with soft leather, alcantara and all plastics are soft touch. 

 

Stu, I'm sorry but to me that interior looks shite. We all look at things differently but I would not be surprised to see that dash in a Singsong Rexton. To my eyes the dash their is just a disaster.  Too many push buttons, plastic looks cheap - just too much going on and then a traditional analogue clock in the middle. WTF is that all about?

Granted, the seats and leather look superb.

I still think the far east just do crap interiors.  Contrast it with the clarity, simolicity and leather of the f-pace interior. A similar priced / segment car.

[Stuno1 317]

@C8RKH I much prefer the Lexus interior from a styling perspective. As to say we all like different things and I am right ?

[Bravo73 1,340]

That F-Type wheel is just so wrong. Next step, the Allegro. 

[ephancock77 26]

Not keen on that Lexus interior either.  In my eyes it looks like an updated version of the Nissan Bluebird....must be those vents lol.

[Danelaw 156]

Most of these dash designs just look like dogs dinners to me, even the Jag F-pace isn't much better. Very little design flowing through them and in the case of the Lexus 'designs' just a committee of stylists putting their bank of switches wherever they can find a gap. I've thought the same of some Ford dash designs too. Lacking in one clear vision. 

It also strikes me as odd that the original Evora dash design came in for so much criticism. The comments on the switches were justified in that they are hard to read at times, but there are not so many of them that they take long to learn.

By contrast it appears many dash designs are going back to the philosophy that it should look like a NASA control room such that they may be easy to read but you have to look at 10 or more switches before you see the one you want. The number of small switches on modern steering wheels beggars belief and I find that when I step into a car I don't drive every day I have to peer at small closely positioned switches on a wheel that should be steering the car. I think there are more switches on some steering wheels than the whole of the Evora dash - even perhaps on our little, quite basic, VW polo!

I know many will disagree but for me there was a simplicity and fluidity of design with the original Evora dash that I love. It is not perfect but it has quality materiels and a charm that cossets the driver and with a modest number of switches to find/learn.

[Chris J 55]

I love the styling of the S1 Evora dash and I wish they could have retained some of it for the 400. The ergonomics not so much, I find it easier to operate the window switch with my left hand, which is absurd, and the air-con controls look beautiful but I wish they could have fitted proper climate control so I could set them once and never have to touch them again as they are a pain to get to on the move! The oft quoted one of the buttons you can't see doesn't bother me as the only ones hidden when I'm driving are buttons I've never needed on the go (petrol filler cap, boot release etc...)

 

Otherwise simplicity is always good, especially on the steering wheel. Cruise control and basic stereo controls only at most for me please! I drove from Devon up to Heathrow in a hire car recently and it was only 10 miles from London I discovered the thing had cruise control, as the controls were on a stalk hidden behind one of the huge fat spokes of the steering wheel. Why oh why...? Sometimes you wonder if the designers ever drive the vehicles they work on. 

 

Having said that about simplicity, Peugeot and Citroen are IMO going to far the other way pushing everything onto the touchscreen, which then needs a really good software interface to avoid it becoming cumbersome and distracting, and the last few of those I've driven they certainly haven't managed that!

[C8RKH 6,422]

1 hour ago, Chris J said:

and the air-con controls look beautiful but I wish they could have fitted proper climate control so I could set them once and never have to touch them again as they are a pain to get to on the move!

Lol, my wife's cars have all had climate and one thing it does not do is keep the interior at a constant temperature year round.  It should, but it doesn't.

I love the S1 Evora dash. The only thing I would change is to put a knurl, knobblies on the hvac dials as that smooth metal can be slippery. But tha's a minor thing.

Yes, the mirror switch is awkward but that's a set once and forget thing for me.

The S1 Evora dash with its leather and real metal is just quite simply a design classic in my eyes. Simply bootiful.

[Stuno1 317]

A guy in he USA forum ordered stretch rubber band things to go around the hvac knobs to make it easier to use them. Looked ok but I can't find the thread. 

[Chris J 55]

38 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

Lol, my wife's cars have all had climate and one thing it does not do is keep the interior at a constant temperature year round.  It should, but it doesn't.

 

The climate in my 6 year old Skoda is near as perfect for me. I've left it in Auto (other than using the Max demist when the weather's foul) since I first found what temperature I wanted. The Ford Focus I had before that was rubbish, it blasted you with an icy gale for 5 minutes on start-up in Auto no matter what temperature you had set or what time of year it was...

[Stuno1 317]

How do people expect to sell cars privately for this much wih adverts like this?

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-122-v6-s-sports-racer-4-----------2013/6696724#/description

[Bravo73 1,340]

12 minutes ago, Stuno1 said:

How do people expect to sell cars privately for this much wih adverts like this?

What's wrong with it?

"Ardent red, fully loaded sports racer specification, new michelin pilot super sport tyres, 19" front and 20" rear forged wheels, full black pack, black leather and alcantara interior, red accents. Pioneer Sat Nav and reversing camera. Owned from new. Lovely condition. FLSH."

The photos are decent enough and the description covers: colours (inside and out), condition, specification, service history, one owner car and points out that the (very good) tyres are new. The mileage and location are mentioned elsewhere. 

What else would you want to know?

[Stuno1 317]

When selling any car privately, especially one as expensive as this, id make the adverts as detailed as possible to firstly help buyers and to avoid questions. So I'd expect things like what was done at the last service, service intervals with mileage and date, pic of the log book, state of tyres, break pads and discs, honesty about any scratches or wear as it will have some of both. This sort of thing.

[Barrykearley 6,977]

Sometimes less is more - just to get the calls coming in helps. Once you are talking   - a deal can often follow

 

[Bravo73 1,340]

If I was in the market for an SR, that ad is more than enough to make me want to see the car. Any decision would obviously only be made on seeing, and driving, the car. 

The price doesn't seem outrageous for a relatively low mileage SR. I bet it sells quickly. 

[Stuno1 317]

I think the price is good for a private sale. 

[Colin P 678]

2 hours ago, C8RKH said:

I love the S1 Evora dash. The only thing I would change is to put a knurl, knobblies on the hvac dials as that smooth metal can be slippery. But tha's a minor thing.

Take the panel out. You will see that each of the controls is mounted to a plate, which is then mounted to the underside of the Ali panel. If you take a half turn out of the screws holding the mounting plate to the Ali panel you will find that the knobs become much easier to turn and the slickness if them ceases to be an issue.

[JAWS 423]

I do love the simplicity of the original Evora..

However, the Elite S1 interior on which it was based takes simplicity to another level...

Interiors don't need to be fussy as Tesla proves, it's simply a distraction from the actual enjoyment of driving.

@Stuno1 - you can put Vape rings around the HVAC knobs to aid grip. I have glow in the dark ones which are pretty unobtrusive but still look a bit meh. Dimpled/grooved knobs as per the Elise/Exige/VX220 would be best.

 

 

[Chris J 55]

For me it is massively lifted by the highlight of the Oyster stripe running across the doors and dash, but then I would say that as that's what I've got...

[C8RKH 6,422]

Yes, that Elite S1 interior just makes go weak at the knees. You are right, sometimes less is more but the young generation want buttons, buttons and buttons.

Funny, but I think the spec of an S1 Evora is spot on too.  I think I just like the S1 Evora, full stop.

[Snoopy1969 276]

Can't agree more, esp the lines from the outside are also inside / curved design, the pronlem with facelifts in general is that inside / outside, original lines / styling " at a whole concept" are not repeated 

@JAWS

[Hedgehogfromhell 126]

I have zero issues with the S1 Elise/Exige Interior and dash. S1 Evora too.. the only thing I'd take from the 400/410 would be the HVAC knobs. 

Id want nothing from a more mainstream dashboard they are often too fussy and look like a dogs dinner or too "Germanic" and overloaded with tech and crap.

[ephancock77 26]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-122-v6-s-4------------------2011/6706489#

 

Surprised nobody's talking about this car currently at Silverstone.  Not for me but looks to be a great price!

[Barrykearley 6,977]

Nah - it's only got 2 seats 

[internets 472]

Its not Silverstone, its a private sale but they are using a picture from when it was for sale at Silverstone. But has got the komotec EV430 upgrade....

Anyway as Barry says only 2 seats so its bound to be slower than a mighty +2 but then what would I know as I own an iPhone and an Audi