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I have just come back from a friends garage in Woking and have been advised to sell my lotus... I agreed at first but on reflection i dont want to!!!

This all started when the cam belt went 'snap' and i have had it off the road for a year now. Bills for new parts, shaving down valves to get the shims to fit and all else is taking its toll on my pocket. So i just wanted a little encouragement and a boost to get the car on the road... otherwise i have a Black Esprit S3 for sale in bits.

I am still attatched to all the bits and can not let them go so please offer me something for my car or help me see the light to fix it!

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have a read of my restoration thread, by the end of that you will realise how well off you really are.

dont give in, take a break and then go back to it, dont rush things.

i havent given in yet and i dont plan to, so i look forward to seeing you, start a restoration thread in the restoration section for us all to look at your prgress and to offer encouragement and advice when needed.

if theres anything i can do, just ask :welcome:

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Do not give in.

If you do then it has proved you not worthy. :) It is a well known fact that all esprits will from time to time test their owners to confirm that they are in fact up to and worthy to own such a car.

These tests can come in many forms from broken and bleeding hands to an emptying of the wallet.

What drives you on through these dark times is that you know at the end of it the grin factor will return :D as you blast on towards the next test, as you become a more experienced owner the tests generally will become smaller and the rewards longer given.

Are you up to the challenge your car has set you will you step up to the plate and take the pain to be rewarded by this truly great car with a grin from ear to ear?

:welcome::D :D :)YES SIR I DO :harhar::D:P :P

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The car's clearly got you pretty hacked off and if it's been out of action for a year then do you really miss it all that much.....

A non-working car is rarely worth much money so if you're even thinking of selling for sensible money the car needs to be running. One approach would be pay someone to fix it properly and then make your decision whether to keep or sell. Unless the estimate to fix it is more than the car's going to be worth when it's fixed you're going to come out ahead. Either way at least you will no longer have a broken down Esprit cluttering up your life!

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Mark,

You know where I am. Give me a shout and we'll put the old girl back together! Once she's running you'll slap yourself for even considering selling!!

Let me know what the sit rep is with regards to parts. If it's just a case of putting everything back...easy...ish!

Pete

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I'll buy it! :harhar:

Just kidding -- I need to practice some restraint!

For what it's worth, my red S1 sat undriveable with a bad connecting rod bearing for two and a half years. I had spent all my money at a "recommended Lotus specialist" who proved they were incapable of rebuilding a 907, rebuilding it twice and failing both times.

My choices were to sell the Lotus at a huge loss, or be patient until I could afford to do it right -- on my own. I chose the latter.

In that down time, rather than just letting the car sit and collect dust, I treated it like a show car. I carefully detailed everything on the car, and cleansed the underside and never-seen areas of 29k miles' worth of road dust. I touched up the stone chips, polished the wheels, etc.

I needed a crankshaft, and ended up buying an entire engine from a wrecked 1980 Eclat in late 2004. Throughout 2005, I bought the necessary parts, hardware, gaskets, etc., as money allowed, and in late 2005 I put it back together with new parts for anything that did not meet "new" tolerances.

People say the S1 is unreliable? Huh. In the automotive world, there is no more satisfying feeling than driving an old Esprit with total confidence, knowing that everything on it is in top shape, because you yourself tightened every nut, bolt, and fastener on the car. :welcome:

Hang in there -- the reward is well worth the agony it takes to get there. Just be patient, and remember that you don't HAVE to have the car running and perfect as soon as humanly possible -- take your time and don't let it interfere with any other aspect of life; the day will come that you drive it again, and you will quickly forget the time in which you could not drive it.

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I used Lottie as my daily drive for 7 years from new, but in 1997 with 130,000 miles she started to develop niggling and costly problems which at the time I couldn't afford to have fixed. So I rented a lock-up and started to save for a major overhaul - budgeting

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I had a massive and unforeseen change in financial circumstances a while back and when the engine developed a massive oil leak and I noticed a fray in the timing belt, I had to take her off the road for what turned out to be 18 months. Sat in my driveway without moving, but I still used to sit with a cup of coffee on a morning just looking waiting for when I could get her going again.

Got her started and going again with all work done just a week prior to the factory day last year. Now that time off the road without seems like a distant memory and I'm planning respray and retrim.

Hang on in there....................

Regards

Mat

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Mate, please don't do it. There are few enough of that model in the first place. Like it's said earlier, get a good secondhand engine drom a broken car and repair/recondition yours to new condition. the rest of your car looks great, imagine a gleaming new engine, refurbed by you/someone you know, in her. Everytime you start her up you'll know you did the right thing!

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Mark - that's a fine looking car you have, sounds like you need a hoon to restore your faith whilst you work out how/when to get it fixed... surely we must have another Esprit owner nearby who can offer you a passenger seat on a sunny afternoon...? C'mon guys, this is sounding serious... :respect:

Dan

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1.)look at it.

2.)(especially true for an S3 NA)... MPG shames many "economy" cars (at least here in the states, my turbo gets 25mpg... in traffic. maybe not if I use the power heh B)), performance shames many "performance" cars.

3.)...what could possibly replace it? :respect: I've contemplated this (not selling the Lotus, but what could possibly make me feel as good...) There's really nothing that delivers exactly what the Esprit does.

4.)...might biting the bullet and getting it totally sorted be about as cost effective as selling it (for probably not too much) and buying another car? And then you'd have a like new, amazing car :rofl: And once they're sorted and maintained thereafter, S3s are pleasantly trouble free :lol: At least mine has been (yeah. I just threw a lot of money at it and replaced all the dodgy bits heh)

5.)Repaint it Orange. Fix the cambelt related damage. Done :lol:

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It's most depressing when your Lotus is off the road, even more so when the time seems to go on from one month to the next. I remember our previous one (S4) getting sick, the parts they needed to repair it.....it just took months for it to all come together. In October 2005 our current one went spectacularly wrong.....is there any Lotus owner who has not had a lovely afternoon drive out end by seeing their Lotus being taken away on a low-loader?? That's not a good feeling. The bill for the last time was hugely expensive, definitely a down side to having one of these cars. But, surely all of the bad is 100% over-ridden by those moments when you are actually back on the road. Nothing else looks or feels like an Esprit. I think somehow you have to hang on in there, you would likely always regret selling it.

Just because you can, does'nt mean you should.

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Lotusbits.com has a complete engine for 800 pounds. Plonk that in while you fettle your own engine at your leisure.

P.S. Why are you grinding the valves to fit the shims? The shims should be ground to get the clearance. Grind the end of the valve and it will be written off as you will have gone through the hard layer.

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Splashout,

Great post .. how true !!

Tony K,

Wholeheartedly agree with your post.

There is no more satisfying experience than driving a car that you yourself have rebuilt (I've now rebuilt my 7 twice).

Not only do you have the confidence that nothing was overlooked but you learn so much that when something does go wrong or start to play up you know exactly where to go and what to do, which then gives you far more confidence when going away on long trips or driving it hard.

(It's also good to be able to blast the pub knowall into the weeds when he starts his monologue regarding his shaky knowledge of Chapman engineering .. which usually starts with "I used to own one of those" and then when he realises he is getting out of his depth he throws in the line "ah, mine was different because it was a prototype model .. blah, blah, blah".

Living in Lotus county, with lots of ex-employees everywhere, it is quite common to hear this conversation on a Friday night).

Keep off the straight and narrow

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Mark

If you need a bit of inspiration swing over to mine today (I am only 10 minutes up the road from you in Shepperton) and have a look what I have been up to with my car, your troubles will seem much less :respect:

I'll even offer to help you out where I can to get it back on the road for summer.

If you are interested PM me

Hilly

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I have a friend who always sells his entusiastic cars when he is pissed off(to much truble with it) or other problem occour(got single).

And he always regret that he sold it a year later.

If you can store the car at another place where you dont see it for a 1/2 year or so,I think your motivation will come back again.

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Graham makes a VERY good suggestion!

What sort of bill are you looking at?

You may well be best served by looking at one of Garry Kemp's S4 engines! :)

He also had an insanely tuned one there, ready to go.

WELL worth the money in the long term. You will need some gearbox and clutch upgrades but if you decide to go down the 'fast, new, turbo engine' route, drop me a line and I'll tell you everything I know!

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